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An opinion you are fully entitled to. But I think the debate comes from your justification and reasons behind it. I could say anything without justifying it. It just strangles the potential discussion when you say "3 years" and not say what you saw. Last season he was great for Swansea. I just can't get my head around it... They are young players getting starts for a big-club for the first time in England!
It is premature. If you write players off when they are young, you're likely to regret it more often than not later. Jagielka was written off in his younger days... He is a prime example. I hope these 2 prove you wrong too.
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This thread isn't about slating borini and Allen but more the fact we have over paid yet when we have been linked with quality proven players we always hear that the board wouldn't release the funds. I like Allen and borini as squad players but at £25m we could have spent the money more wisely.
This is where I think our problems lie that we always insist on buying squad players instead of spending the money on quality players. Although I do admit we went all out and spent £35m on one player....andy caroll (face in palm) No but its slating Sturridge. Theres nothing new about paying over the odds for players, just look back at previous managers and there is a list as long as my arm without mentioning who they are!! The transfer market today is a crazy place coupled to the fact that we are LFC. It seems to me that if a player is available for 5 million and we make a bid then it go's up to 8 million. Take Blackpool for example over the Ince deal.
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Talking about Ince: What do we need him for?
He was released 1 year ago for £ 250k because we didn't rate him enough to even keep him in the reserves. Now we are desperate to re-sign him for £ 6m. I just can't understand!
At the same time we seemingly don't want to sign Sneijder for about the same price (but of course on a higher wage bill). Sneijder is a player who fits a club aspiring for CL status, whereas Ince fits a club playing in the Championship!
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Yes. 25 mill for 2 players who would not make the bench of any of the top 4 teams at the moment.
Include the 12 million for sturridge and its 37 million for 3 players who wouldn't make the bench for man utd or man city. Now I think sturridge will do ok but he's done nothing yet.
To think I used to criticise Benitez in the transfer market. He was a genius in the transfer market compared to our last 3 managers including rodgers Well that's rubbish, Sturridge has hit the ground running and has three goals from his first three games and not full games at that, how can you say he's done nothing? Borini has yet to get a proper run before we could say anything like that about him, and Allen has done fine in most games with a bit of a dip in his last couple, but way too early for that sort of assessment.
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If Sturridge continues this form, he alone will justify BR's transfer nous.
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Yes. 25 mill for 2 players who would not make the bench of any of the top 4 teams at the moment.
Include the 12 million for sturridge and its 37 million for 3 players who wouldn't make the bench for man utd or man city. Now I think sturridge will do ok but he's done nothing yet.
To think I used to criticise Benitez in the transfer market. He was a genius in the transfer market compared to our last 3 managers including rodgers Benitez a genius in the transfer market???? One word for that, Aquilani! Oh yes and didn't he want to offload Xabi Alonso and replace him with Gareth Barry? Inspiring!!
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Xabi was leaving we knew that from the beginning of his final season, Barry has gone on to win an FA cup and Premier League with City, although i agree you cant justify your point as Barry never signed. And as for Benitez' signings, 1 in 5 were good but to be fair most of the crap ones were free or next to free
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He also signed Alonso, Torres, Mascherano, Garcia, Lucas, Kuyt, and plenty other great players. And Benitez got some bargains too. If he he had stayed, I think Aqua would have been much less of a disappointment. Remember the CL match against Real Madrid when we stomped them? He won MOTM had put on a passing masterclass. I think he might not have been the best choice, but he had quality.
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Yeah Aqua was a top player at one point before his injury with Roma, also an interesting statistic is we never lost a competitive game with Aquaman in the team, something like 25 games 0 losses
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i think its a bit unfair to say the money has been wasted. they may not have set the world alight just yet but both have the potential to become important players for lfc.
borini scored 10 goals for roma last year and travelled with italy to euro 2012, so that signals theres plenty more to come from him. he's started just 5 games.
i'm sure theres plenty more to come from joe allan too. he's been drafted in and out of different roles and seems to have lost his confidence. i felt he did a decent job filling in at DM. he's shown enough at swansea that he can be much more of an influential player going forward. i think once he bags himself a goal and gets a couple of assists he'll step up him game.
will take time for the pair of them but both have the potential to be worth more than the £25m we signed them for
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