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Originally Posted By: Maxi88
Originally Posted By: TheMightyLFC
FFP is nonsense. I don't see anything wrong in rich owners finncing their clubs.

FFP is purely a mechanism for current powerhouses to maintain their position.


in this instance FFP creates a hierarchy but in this one

Originally Posted By: TheMightyLFC
No one is forced to pay above what they want or can afford. I think all the rich clubs do is create a separate, higher value market. i.e., only they can afford the very best players. Once they've had their pick the other clubs can buy from the remaining players at prices and wages they can afford. This is nothing differentfrom what Manchester United in particular did before City and Chelsea came along. Rooney at £25m, Ferdinand £30m etc. They didn't complain then.

Regarding the portsmouth situation, if a rich owner spends his own money and doesn't put the club in debt then what's the problem? Yet FFP is trying to outlaw this?



not having FFP also creates a hierarchy?

which one is it?


Can't see what you're getting at?


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What you said in the first post is that all FFP is going to do is cement the powerhouses positions - ie a hierarchy.

In your second post you are saying that as it stands, the rich clubs pick and choose the best players and get them at the highest price and wages and the rest pick up the scraps. That is a hierarchy too and exists now and FFP is trying to change it

Surely FFP which is designed to curb spending will reduce the gap between the have and have nots to some extent, even allowing for some teams having a vastly higher turnover than others

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My view is that there's no difference between having FFP and not having FFP in terms of a hierarchy. The difference is only who can be part of the top tier.

Under FFP, the clubs that have traditionally been at the top, e.g. Manchester United, will probably alway stay there because they have the highest earnings. Without FFP, any club with a rich owner can muscle themselves into the elite club - but there will still be a hierarchy. Hence I say, what's the difference? Better not to hve FFP from a neutrals perspective so that at least we can see some new teams at the top from time to time.

(I guess the mistake I made in my first post is the use of the term 'current' powerhouses. I should've said 'traditional' instead perhaps).

Real FFP would be like a franschise system where clubs in the same division have the same annual budget for trnsfers and wages. That would really make things interesting.


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A good article on FFP.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/footb...ct-8451600.html

It's does seem that Chelsea and City have alot of questions to be answered.

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