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wakka #300734 14/01/13 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted By: wakka
They can make exemptions for clubs if it will devalue a competition,I think it will be a joke, try kicking Real Madrid out of European competitions, the competition would fold very quickly.

Rich owners will do like PSG and create marketing companies and pay their clubs 100s of millions per season to have the name on the shirt or stadium.


Did you know PSG's players salarys = 290% of their entire revenue!!

Something needs to happen, Fast!

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That is scary

Sponsors will run away as fast as possible if teams get long bans from Europe, look at what happened to Malaga, I dare Platini to take on City, Real and Barca.


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Originally Posted By: wakka
That is scary

Sponsors will run away as fast as possible if teams get long bans from Europe, look at what happened to Malaga, I dare Platini to take on City, Real and Barca.


Both teams which have been Sanctioned are spanish arent they?

I know more are on the list for further checks but so far no big names like city...

It seems creative accounting is winning to me.

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FFP is nonsense. I don't see anything wrong in rich owners finncing their clubs.

FFP is purely a mechanism for current powerhouses to maintain their position.


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What those rich owners are doing is inflating transfer fees and wages for other clubs which drives up their expenses and for those who can't afford to spend at the higher level, it creates a further gulf between them.

It is also designed to protect against a situation where a wealthy, or supposedly wealthy, owner pulls the plug on a club and they go into financial meltdown and freefall through the leagues - Portsmouth

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No one is forced to pay above what they want or can afford. I think all the rich clubs do is create a separate, higher value market. i.e., only they can afford the very best players. Once they've had their pick the other clubs can buy from the remaining players at prices and wages they can afford. This is nothing differentfrom what Manchester United in particular did before City and Chelsea came along. Rooney at £25m, Ferdinand £30m etc. They didn't complain then.

Regarding the portsmouth situation, if a rich owner spends his own money and doesn't put the club in debt then what's the problem? Yet FFP is trying to outlaw this?


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Originally Posted By: TheMightyLFC
FFP is nonsense. I don't see anything wrong in rich owners finncing their clubs.

FFP is purely a mechanism for current powerhouses to maintain their position.


in this instance FFP creates a hierarchy but in this one

Originally Posted By: TheMightyLFC
No one is forced to pay above what they want or can afford. I think all the rich clubs do is create a separate, higher value market. i.e., only they can afford the very best players. Once they've had their pick the other clubs can buy from the remaining players at prices and wages they can afford. This is nothing differentfrom what Manchester United in particular did before City and Chelsea came along. Rooney at £25m, Ferdinand £30m etc. They didn't complain then.

Regarding the portsmouth situation, if a rich owner spends his own money and doesn't put the club in debt then what's the problem? Yet FFP is trying to outlaw this?



not having FFP also creates a hierarchy?

which one is it?

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Of course. It encourages/forces other teams to spend beyond their means in order to keep up. Look at it this way:

...Club X regularly finishes 4th and therefore commits a certain amount of funds on salaries & facilities.
...some arab comes along and buys his way into the top 4. This forces club X out of the champions league.
...the loss of their CL revenue means they are overstretched on their financial commitments.
...this means that they will have to overspend in order to keep up and get their place back.

Obviously, this could happen naturally but the governing bodies don't want success to be bought and they don't want clubs going out of business. It make sense to put restrictions in place. If anything, there should be more restrictions, ie...

....wage cap for match day squad
....total ban on clubs being bought and loaded wth debt
....cap on spending per transfer window
....limit on agent fees

The sport is rotting away at the moment with too much money ending up in the wrong hands and not enough going into the development of the game/facilities domestically. And it's only going to get worse, especially if FFP will be abused in the manner that people are suggesting.

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Anything to do with that richard Skidmark head of the EPL is to do with raking in money for top clubs and therefore himself and his friends

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I always wondering if the rich owners are not using the clubs to laundering money, after all , no too many clubs are making any profits , considering the salaries that they have to pay to maintain a club ! For us is a passion for them is a business and not always clean !

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