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Originally Posted By: coolflames
Just because FSG dont spend money like Manchester City does'nt mean they are the wrong owners, they are trying to run the Club right and stopping us going into debt like last time, am glad they dont spend money we have'nt got that way it wont come back to haunt us later on down the line...


I agree but surely we have money to spend now after letting Cole and Sahin go?
Combined they must have been close to £200,000 a week in terms of wages

With that sort of money we could get a top player but I think Jay is right, FSG will just hold onto that money

Dont forget we also got Maxi, Kuyt, Adam, Bellemy, Carroll and Aquaman all off the wage bill too with only a few players coming in so there should be money to spend on transfers and wages


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And the only player that seems likely to arrive if anyone is Tom Ince...

Not exactly what is needed

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Agree with comments above nd can't add to them much. We have now had three bad owners covering 22 years. I would not describe FSG as [oops] artists but they have no intensional of risking their own money n since that is what ths club needs substantial investment then there is not much t get excited about


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Seriously I think you need to support one of the following.... Chelsea, Man City, PSG, or Anzhi Makhachkala.


you = refers to whom it may apply to. If you need to ask then it probably includes you.

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Originally Posted By: Scainer
Seriously I think you need to support one of the following.... Chelsea, Man City, PSG, or Anzhi Makhachkala.


you = refers to whom it may apply to. If you need to ask then it probably includes you.



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Know what you are saying Jay, but analysing just after a defeat to ManU is probably not the wisest of pastimes!

It seems to me they want their cake and eat it. BR is their boy yet they seem hesitant to give him the funds until he has proven himself with a season that reflects the squad and where we should finish before giving him bigger funding. It may be OK at a Norwich but at LFC I have my doubts. If they we unsure on the guy why employ him?

Expectations are higher (rightly so) and I start to wonder how much longer there will be fuel in the tank of the LFC global brand before it falls off a cliff and all the potential with it.

Their philosophy appears to be suited to a Championship side that they want to make good, but this club isn't that.

It does appear to be a sorry state but one or two signings in this game can quickly change things. I just get the feeling there is no genuine intent or impetus there and an ignorance of the game in general.

It has that accountants running the show feeling to it for me and a reactionary mindset on just about everything.



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I'm prepared to give BR and FSG the rest of this season s a transition period with a view to a much mor competetive season in 2013/2014.

As a fan who likes to see us compete, I've written this season off. I'm not prepred to build myself up for games only to be let down by a pathetic performance, followed by mutterings about a poor squad, a thin squad or that it will take time.

The first half yesterday was poor and Sturridge didn't start. We had no goal attempts after more than 30 minutes.

By the start of next season, BR will have had a whole season to convey 'his philosophy' plus 3 transfer windows to shuffle the pack. He has so far purchases 3 £10m+ players. If we're not competing in the league for a top 4 finish next season then BR will have questions to answer I reckon.

I'm glad FSG haven't splashed the cash this season. They were let down last season and any more such waste could see us do a Leeds. We've removed players who were being paid to be on the bench and/or who didn't want to be here, and we've purchased £10m+ players in each window so far for BR. There might be one or two more in Jan nd the summer, hence let's just hope that it's a patient, long term strtegy that's in the mind of Henry et al.

(btw, because we're not competeing I, like many others I guess, chose a 2nd team which I want to win the league. Used to be Arsenal, was Man City last season... and is now Chelsea and/or Man City)

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Originally Posted By: TheKopProphet
I think Jay has some of that FS Gout!


Mock me all you like. It's my opinion and I am entitled. To it.

FSG didn't invest last January when we were potentially a striker away from getting 4th.

They didn't invest in the Summer, Failed again.. This track record suggests they do not have the fortitude to move the club forward.

Can't wait till the Summer when they fail us again! Then some of you have some serious humble pie to eat!

If they do invest. I will not change my opinion.. We've lacked investment since Day 1.... Making a few signings now is what they should be doing.. It's their job!

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Originally Posted By: Top4
Know what you are saying Jay, but analysing just after a defeat to ManU is probably not the wisest of pastimes!

It seems to me they want their cake and eat it. BR is their boy yet they seem hesitant to give him the funds until he has proven himself with a season that reflects the squad and where we should finish before giving him bigger funding. It may be OK at a Norwich but at LFC I have my doubts. If they we unsure on the guy why employ him?

Expectations are higher (rightly so) and I start to wonder how much longer there will be fuel in the tank of the LFC global brand before it falls off a cliff and all the potential with it.

Their philosophy appears to be suited to a Championship side that they want to make good, but this club isn't that.

It does appear to be a sorry state but one or two signings in this game can quickly change things. I just get the feeling there is no genuine intent or impetus there and an ignorance of the game in general.

It has that accountants running the show feeling to it for me and a reactionary mindset on just about everything.




This has absolutely nothing to do with yesterdays result. Nothing at all...

If we had won yesterday I would have been saying exactly the same thing. Perhaps with less venom but still the point exists. The point would have been.. See we can compete. We are within touching distance. But need investment now to secure progress... The same thing as last Jan... When they failed.

Now we are languishing in 8th. 24 points off United and no a hope in hells chance of getting 4th. Suarez and others could leave...

I do wonder what clauses are in these contracts Agger and Suarez are...

Kuyt had the you can leave for £1 million in the Summer clause last year.. wink

I'm not saying it's entirely FSG's fault. BR could be to blame on some issue's.

However it's a fairly balanced assessment which is a lot better than some people who constantly attack BR and certain players without seeing the deeper underlying issue's which are present.

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Absolutely 100% agree with Jay, but I also think Rodgers could have done more with what he had, he totally got it wrong for 60mins yesterday and then after a change it was us for the final 30mins, I can't remember who I had the conversation with a couple of days ago about Sahin, but I'm so glad Lucas played and made everyone 30% better( Sarcastically)

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