KopTalk.com Forums Football Liverpool FC Forum Anyone believe in the FSG project???

Rafa 09/10 season---------Woy/KK 10/11 season-------KK 11/12 season
Points 58 - 6th Place-----------Points 58 - 7th Place------------Points 52 - 8th Place
No Champions League---------No Champions League----------No Champions League
No trophies----------------------No trophies----------------------League Cup

How much wasted wages and transfer fees were spent in this time, hardly any of which are at the club now! I wouldn't like to do the maths and see what we lost. Including what FSG inherited. Someone's free to if they know?!

Huge/dis-proportioned wage bill, bad contracts, average players on CL type wages, bad expensive buys, under-performing players etc etc etc etc ... I'm sure you can all fill in all the shambles and under achievements yourselves. No end of bad business not addressed you can come up with yourselves!!!

How more restricted has Rodgers been? With not too much difference? Except no excessive amounts of money was wasted to not reach CL spots

Rodgers 12/13 season
Points 31 ................(so far) target? 27 more? 17 matches remaining.
Champions League? ...........(probably not) no different to previous 3 seasons!
Trophy? ..............(In two Cup Comps) outside chance of one . perhaps . but my glass is half full (as always)

The differences I'm highlighting here is FSG seem to of attempted (finally) to manage & address the clubs costs effectively, and not just keep handing out transfer fees that they're asked for, for players, while, over hauling the clubs style/philosophy/manager etc and (the most important thing) not have it (it seems) effect our points total

I'm sure there are fans on here that will pi*s and moan about something I've mentioned. Some only seem happy, over stating how bad a situation we're in compared to the last few seasons, which is clearly an exaggeration.
Having it in their head that the only answer is to throw money at it even though that clearly hasn't work and has us in a worse position, that Rodgers is baring the brunt of still, seasons after.

If Rodgers can finish the season on a par (or there abouts) with our previous 3 seasons (points wise) the difference is, we will start next season (thanks to FSG's clever cost management) not in the self inflicted handicapped position where we are paying bit part, under performing players that we're trying to get out of the club, CL wages.

Looks like we'll have a summer for the first time in over 3 seasons where if FSG have (to their mind) managed the clubs costs efficiently enough, that Rodgers will be free to go out into the market place and bring in 3/4 top players that will push us into top 4 next season. If he can equal this with a nothing squad of such young players, hopefully in a season or two and some good spending we'll be back at the top very soon.

Why am I the only one who see's it in this light?? I'll happily take a season or two like this one if when it comes to season 3/4/6/8 we're competing right at the top for leagues and European Cups. And that's obviously the plan for a club the size of ours! It's over 100 years old and will be here long after we're all dead, these 6 month, fix it now, only support us when we're winning, throw money at it monkey fans, that are around ... well I just don't get you ...

YNWA

Anyone believe in Santa?

the fsg project was i understand to make john henry a speculative profit but it seems to have gone off the rails no idea what the aim is now. Get out with shirt intact maybe?

Not really, not yet. They have invested money which is good, but I don't see what the overall goal is?

LFC are still inconsistent in games - can have a blinder one week then play dreadful the next. Similar formation and tactics to last season, although Rodgers is starting to tweak it a bit. Similar transfer mentality to last season, paying out for young British (or just generally younger players) and being held to ransom for transfer fees.

If results improve massively this year, the team finish circa 6th in the league and FSG invest in the summer again, then I will have a more positive answer for you!

Not sure FSG even have a project, they saw a big red apple about to fall off the tree and bagged it. They've been trying to work out what to do with it ever since, and being corporate raiders their first thought was to slash and burn. Where will they decide to go now? anyones guess imo.

What your trying to say will fall on deaf ears. The majority of posters are fuelled by their emotions of the current situation.
The issue is the prejudice against foreign or more specifically American ownership.

Had it not been for the global recession the previous owners probably would have delivered a stadium and not viewed as the evil they are today. Unfortunately for them their leveraged buyout backfired and caused horrendous mismanagement, which the new owners are tarred with. (i.e. Just want to screw the club for money)

Some people have reservations because they want a sugar daddy owner, but acknowledge they steady investment FSG have made in the team, but try to pass off that its only money from saved wages.
The last group, use the stadium issue as the yard stick of judgement and are impatient. The fact is we have been told that the compulsory removal of tenants could take a year or two. Community opposition has always been a thorn in our side. Its is not just the perceived Everton fans causing issue but other locals worry about the increased capacity. Where do an extra 10-15k people park their cars?


Anyway.... I am living with the faith that FSG as good custodians of the club, and they are getting the business side on track so the team will benefit. My yard stick is the continual squad investment that is hopefully generated by good business management. They have so far invested sizeable amount to the squad (even if lots was wasted, and i'm not including Carrol or Suarez in that) and this summer has become important to see where we are at.

FSG had to make a stand somewhere and this is it. It in business terms has taken a relatively short period of 2yrs to sort out the backroom mess in which we have been laidened with. There has been no short of investment and often without guaranteed return, ther has however been big mistakes - then again there always is.

Th stadium has been a joke for 10yrs, the city council wanted both football club to fund the re-development of the Anfield Everton area. Basically their own ineptitude and neglect over decades created this mess. This is why it has been so slow going forward.

personally I would like to see a UK based CEO to offer real time leadership to the club on a day to day bases.I feel that opportunities are being missed by being too slow, also dealing with situations(suraez etc) could have been handled better, rather than leaving to Kenny.

Finally more investment in the first team this summer would go along way in giving the team a boost - I do howvere stress that this must be quality not quantity.