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Originally Posted By: OmegaRed
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look we all know luis is not a whiter than white player , yes he has baggage , he has bitten people , booked regular and has dived , and yes he has been brilliant for liverpool scored goals and played well , yes he handled the ball and ther ref give the goal , i just believe ok we all moan when decision go against liverpool IE shelvey sent off and suarez's goal at goodison , now yesterday he handled the ball got away with it and as far as i believe now it is swings and roundabouts .
like I said before, I dont think it's the fact Suarez actualy handled the ball, if Ashley

Exactly. Point is only someone with a vendetta/grudge would make such a big deal of this. He clearly didn't mean it, but the ref gave it and that's that. Bring on United.
like I said before, I dont think it's the fact Suarez actualy handled the ball, if Ashley Young dives, cheats and gets somebody sent off or scores a goal delibrately with his hand on Sunday, Liverpool fans will call him all the cheating names under the sun, this is where it's two faced, you either condemn these sorts of players or you dont, cant have it both ways, have to be fair...

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Originally Posted By: fazakerley red 1
look we all know luis is not a whiter than white player , yes he has baggage , he has bitten people , booked regular and has dived , and yes he has been brilliant for liverpool scored goals and played well , yes he handled the ball and ther ref give the goal , i just believe ok we all moan when decision go against liverpool IE shelvey sent off and suarez's goal at goodison , now yesterday he handled the ball got away with it and as far as i believe now it is swings and roundabouts .
like I said before, I dont think it's the fact Suarez actualy handled the ball, if Ashley

Exactly. Point is only someone with a vendetta/grudge would make such a big deal of this. He clearly didn't mean it, but the ref gave it and that's that. Bring on United.
like I said before, I dont think it's the fact Suarez actualy handled the ball, if Ashley Young dives, cheats and gets somebody sent off or scores a goal delibrately with his hand on Sunday, Liverpool fans will call him all the cheating names under the sun, this is where it's two faced, you either condemn these sorts of players or you dont, cant have it both ways, have to be fair...


I don't think he meant it, therefore it's irrelevant.

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Originally Posted By: OmegaRed
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Originally Posted By: fazakerley red 1
look we all know luis is not a whiter than white player , yes he has baggage , he has bitten people , booked regular and has dived , and yes he has been brilliant for liverpool scored goals and played well , yes he handled the ball and ther ref give the goal , i just believe ok we all moan when decision go against liverpool IE shelvey sent off and suarez's goal at goodison , now yesterday he handled the ball got away with it and as far as i believe now it is swings and roundabouts .
like I said before, I dont think it's the fact Suarez actualy handled the ball, if Ashley

Exactly. Point is only someone with a vendetta/grudge would make such a big deal of this. He clearly didn't mean it, but the ref gave it and that's that. Bring on United.
like I said before, I dont think it's the fact Suarez actualy handled the ball, if Ashley Young dives, cheats and gets somebody sent off or scores a goal delibrately with his hand on Sunday, Liverpool fans will call him all the cheating names under the sun, this is where it's two faced, you either condemn these sorts of players or you dont, cant have it both ways, have to be fair...


I don't think he meant it, therefore it's irrelevant.
totaly disagree, have another look at it, he delibrately, moved his hand towards the ball, knocking it down perfectly into his path to leave himself with a tap in, he knew exactly what he was doing. this is my point about Liverpool fans and the way they blatenly distort the facts to protect a player because he's a good player, we all seen the same thing when they tried to defend his actions against Evra when every single person other than Liverpool fans condemned what he done, they even done the same thing again when he refused to shake Evra's hand and came out with rubbish like Evra held his hand out too low and stuff like that, highly embarrassing...

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dont want to get into this spat 99% of prem footballers are cheats in one way or another as far as i am concerned. But in my view suarez handballed it deliberate he knew what he was doing and was expecting the goal to be disallowed and / or receive a booking. The ref and his assistant got it wrong and even if suarez tried to argue with the ref the ref can not take account of it can only give what he sees


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dont want to get into this spat 99% of prem footballers are cheats in one way or another as far as i am concerned. But in my view suarez handballed it deliberate he knew what he was doing and was expecting the goal to be disallowed and / or receive a booking. The ref and his assistant got it wrong and even if suarez tried to argue with the ref the ref can not take account of it can only give what he sees
spot on, thats exactly the way I see it, ref and linesman fault...

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I don't post much - should it be obvious who coolflames is...?

Yep. The same guy who's on his 20th or so account after the other 19 got banned. Maybe there's been more, I've lost count. His last one was 'joecool' incase you still don't know who I mean.


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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
dont want to get into this spat 99% of prem footballers are cheats in one way or another as far as i am concerned. But in my view suarez handballed it deliberate he knew what he was doing and was expecting the goal to be disallowed and / or receive a booking. The ref and his assistant got it wrong and even if suarez tried to argue with the ref the ref can not take account of it can only give what he sees

I haven't said much on this topic because I think it's absolutely pathetic, if I'm honest. But anybody who criticises Luis Suarez for the handball, has either never played the game before or else they're lying to themselves because of an overriding grudge against the guy - that last option is normally applicable to fans of most other clubs, but of course there is an extremely small minority of our own fans who detest him enough to use this as a stick to beat him with - also pathetic.


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I don't post much - should it be obvious who coolflames is...?

Yep. The same guy who's on his 20th or so account after the other 19 got banned. Maybe there's been more, I've lost count. His last one was 'joecool' incase you still don't know who I mean.


thats a terrible accusation cool flames is an entirely new poster i am sure i do not see any simularities between him and joe cool. none at all.


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hey bar i am not having a go at suarez i love the guy. but in my humble opinion it was a clear handball


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I don't post much - should it be obvious who coolflames is...?

Yep. The same guy who's on his 20th or so account after the other 19 got banned. Maybe there's been more, I've lost count. His last one was 'joecool' incase you still don't know who I mean.
bar i dont understand why people are bothered if people come back if it is a former poster , he or she is not the only one who has returned after being banned there are many many others , this poster has an opinion i dont understand why we cant just debate his or anyone's opinion without wanting them banned .

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