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I know fans have been crying out for FSG to splash the cash from day one with Rodgers, but I think it might be a blessing in disguise getting Rodgers to work under a budget for a season.
They threw money at KK and it didn't work. Misplaced trust which came back to haunt them. Whether people want to argue about it being their money or not is a different topic. Point is whoever's money it was, it was wasted!! That's it! Points total proved it! Throwing more money at it isn't necessarily going to fix it ... and lets face it ... they aren't "oil money rich" (FYI it took Man City 3 seasons, throwing 100m+ at it before they made CL place for the first time ... just in case anyone forgot)
Asking Rodgers to work to a tight budget has put less pressure on him (and lowered our expectations) to be able to work with the squad. Imagine if BR had of spent KK type money and it didn't quite work out as well as hoped?! We'd be jumping all over him, wanting him sacked ... expecting top 4 straight away, another manager within a season and all the player in's & out's that go with it. Embarrassing !!!!
What BR looks like he's going to achieve his season (currently looks on target) is finish in or around the same points total, if not better than Rafa's last season(58) KK one full season(52) and all working with a nothing budget, a very thin, young squad, playing attacking, passing football. Also over hauling the whole philosophy and mentality of the club. With no Maxi, Beller's, Kuyt, Carroll, Torres for example! KK had no European football to worry about. Which really shows how poor a job Rafa & KK did, or how well Rodgers is doing, or a mix of both.
A season of (probably much needed) cost cutting and trying to get our house in order by FSG, should see us in a much stronger position than ever, to be competitive in the longer term.
I think FSG will back Rodgers now we don't have bit part players on huge contracts (which they inherited a lot of) Andy Carroll being the only possible problem this summer
Over all I think Rodgers deserves much more credit than he's been getting generally, and maybe even FSG deserve some, I suppose we'll see come the summer.
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I'm not so sure we can actually afford to have a year of balancing the books.
Spurs are investing big, Arsenal prob will as well, Everton are ahead of us... Even teams like WestBrom etc are making a push..
We are just lagging behind and it's going to cost us come the end of the season. Yes we have cleared alot of deadwood. But we are still paying money out for Cole and Aquallani about 100k a week. The loan of Sahin has been a total failure.
There's still alot of work to do. I'm not sure FSG are the right owners.. What's going on with the Stadium??? That's the issue which pisses me off the most.
They haven't invested anything except paying off the £35 million RBS loan and using that to fund KK purchases last year.
So far we have Sturridge. But that was a deal lined up for last summer.. So where is the investment for Jan? I see none?
Can't really blame BR for the mess we are in. IMO FSG @ LFC is destined to failure... Just another false dawn..
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welcome to koptalk.
prepare to be "carheexed"
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I know fans have been crying out for FSG to splash the cash from day one with Rodgers, but I think it might be a blessing in disguise getting Rodgers to work under a budget for a season.
They threw money at KK and it didn't work. Misplaced trust which came back to haunt them. Whether people want to argue about it being their money or not is a different topic. Point is whoever's money it was, it was wasted!! That's it! Points total proved it! Throwing more money at it isn't necessarily going to fix it ... and lets face it ... they aren't "oil money rich" (FYI it took Man City 3 seasons, throwing 100m+ at it before they made CL place for the first time ... just in case anyone forgot)
Asking Rodgers to work to a tight budget has put less pressure on him (and lowered our expectations) to be able to work with the squad. Imagine if BR had of spent KK type money and it didn't quite work out as well as hoped?! We'd be jumping all over him, wanting him sacked ... expecting top 4 straight away, another manager within a season and all the player in's & out's that go with it. Embarrassing !!!!
What BR looks like he's going to achieve his season (currently looks on target) is finish in or around the same points total, if not better than Rafa's last season(58) KK one full season(52) and all working with a nothing budget, a very thin, young squad, playing attacking, passing football. Also over hauling the whole philosophy and mentality of the club. With no Maxi, Beller's, Kuyt, Carroll, Torres for example! KK had no European football to worry about. Which really shows how poor a job Rafa & KK did, or how well Rodgers is doing, or a mix of both.
A season of (probably much needed) cost cutting and trying to get our house in order by FSG, should see us in a much stronger position than ever, to be competitive in the longer term.
I think FSG will back Rodgers now we don't have bit part players on huge contracts (which they inherited a lot of) Andy Carroll being the only possible problem this summer
Over all I think Rodgers deserves much more credit than he's been getting generally, and maybe even FSG deserve some, I suppose we'll see come the summer.
YNWA You seem to have made the very common mistake of tarring us all with the same brush. Welcome to Koptalk.
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I'm speaking in very general terms ...
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I'm speaking in very general terms ... There's a lot of that round here... Throwing money around only doesn't work when you spend it on Carrol, Downing and Henderson. I wonder how much they'd have spent if Torres had stayed? As Jay said, the longer it goes on, the less chance we have of making it back into top4 unless they leave. The summer was embarrassing, but they can pull it back by making a big signing this Jan. I'm not talking about a £30-40m player, but go all out to get Walcott, Llorente, Snjieder - someone to give us hope, and that's not Ince. We always seem to hear that there's money to spend 'next window'.
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I was speaking in very general terms about one specific sentence that was highlighted ...
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Well it's yet to been seen whether this season of balancing the books will work, but my original point was, you can't really say it's been worse if the fact is we end up having more points on the board!! While playing European football this season.
Only 1 team from Arsenal, Spurs and Everton will make the CL, so I don't see how we'll be so far behind them come the summer. Everton will end up selling all their best players anyway, Spurs haven't made CL last 2 seasons, I think you're over stating the significance of that a bit mate ...
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Well it's yet to been seen whether this season of balancing the books will work, but my original point was, you can't really say it's been worse if the fact is we end up having more points on the board!! While playing European football this season.
Only 1 team from Arsenal, Spurs and Everton will make the CL, so I don't see how we'll be so far behind them come the summer. Everton will end up selling all their best players anyway, Spurs haven't made CL last 2 seasons, I think you're over stating the significance of that a bit mate ... likewise we could.lose our best players and turn into Everton and that for me is doomsday
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If we get this window and next window right then I think top 4 is ours for the taking next year.
A near world class winger, a solid LB to compete with Enrique and maybe another CB should do us. If we sell Carrol and maybe Downing it should help free up funds to get there.
In terms of a winger, I think we need someone like Bale. I know Bale is never going to happen but imagine a forward line of:
Sterling-----Suarez-----Bale -----------Sturridge---------
If we could get someone like that and consolidate defensively I think it would be the missing link. of course players like Bale aren't easy to find and especially with our scouting department I don't hold out much hope
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