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As much as I dislike Stoke, I think Huth would be a good signing for us if we do sell Coates. Whenever we've come up against powerful forwards (Benteke and most of Stoke come to mind) our defence hasn't been able to cope. Having a strong and rough player like Huth in the team would add some steel to our defence and help us deal with more physical teams.
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there games were both based on the same strenghths, tackling, stopping, commitment, getting there bodies in the way and if in doubt row Z. but also timing and reading of the game. sure he's no twinkle toes, but he's more than only just a battering ram. I totally agree. There are plenty of big bruising centre halves throughout the leagues that will head away every ball and throw themselves in front of everything to stop the ball going into the net, Carra has been a whole lot more than that over the years. You don't shine in big European games against some of the best strikers in the world like he has without having a bit more to your game than commitment.
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he's played more games for us than the two of them put together. different type players the three of them. all about opinions, for me there are two different types of centre half, your ball playing centre halfs like Bobby Moore, Franco Beresi, Hansen, Lawrenson, Ferdinand, Agger e.t.c. and your stoppers Carragher, Henchoz, Steve Bould, Dave Watson, John Terry, Puyol e.t.c. they are different types of player, in some ways just as important but there is no way you can say they are good footballers, they are what they are, no nonesense, no frills, stoppers...
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Under 23 Player
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sure the second type of player you mention, in some cases, i think are sold short by your description. a good footballer is not just someone who is good with the ball at his feet. it's what they're doing without the ball at his feet. terry, for example (as much of a turd as he is), has excellent positional play, awareness, leadership and timing.
again, he's no frills and is a stopper but is not just that.
it's true that it is all about opinions as you say.
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1st Team Regular
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carra compared to henchoz.... laughable. your head is stuck in the past. you obviously dont go the game much if you didnt watch Carragher and Henchoz and the way they defend, there games were both based on the same strenghths, tackling, stopping, commitment, getting there bodies in the way and if in doubt row Z. you must have a poxy seat, great view from my armchair. comfy and warm too. plus it doesnt cost me anything, AND i can clearly assess players better. you need to do your homework if you think they are anywhere near the same quality.
Luis Garcia, He drinks sangria
He came from Barca, to bring us Joy
He's five foot seven, he's football heaven
please don't take my Luis away.
"...AND 32 MILLION POUNDS WORTH OF GOALKEEPER CAN'T DO A THING ABOUT IT"
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Liverpool Legend
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at his peak carra was one of the greatest defenders of all time. as a stopper yes and his performances in 2005 were legendary. But otherwise I thought he was limited and he is prone to the odd lapse of concentration
IF YOU WANT TO BE HEARD SPEAK SOFTLY - BOB PAISLEY
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at his peak carra was one of the greatest defenders of all time. as a stopper yes and his performances in 2005 were legendary. But otherwise I thought he was limited and he is prone to the odd lapse of concentration your correct about carragher a brilliant stopper a lad you would have in the trenches with you , but a limited player .
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at his peak carra was one of the greatest defenders of all time. as a stopper yes and his performances in 2005 were legendary. But otherwise I thought he was limited and he is prone to the odd lapse of concentration your correct about carragher a brilliant stopper a lad you would have in the trenches with you , but a limited player . His greatest strength was that he knew his limitations and rarely went beyond them.
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carra compared to henchoz.... laughable. your head is stuck in the past. you obviously dont go the game much if you didnt watch Carragher and Henchoz and the way they defend, there games were both based on the same strenghths, tackling, stopping, commitment, getting there bodies in the way and if in doubt row Z. you need to do your homework if you think they are anywhere near the same quality.  absolutely brilliant
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at his peak carra was one of the greatest defenders of all time. as a stopper yes and his performances in 2005 were legendary. But otherwise I thought he was limited and he is prone to the odd lapse of concentration i cant think of one player that doesnt. carra in his early years and the latter years did have a few lapse in concentration but in his prime he was very my Mr reliable
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