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for the last couple season we've struggled to get the wins over the relegation fodder, and people said that was the problem. Now we're getting the results against lower teams and its us not being able to beat the top teams that's the problem.
Games against United and City, and to some extent Arsenal (unless were really going for 4th) are not going to define our season. anything taken from those games is just a bonus. We do however need to start beating the likes of west brom and everton
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Let's not get carried away because we are 'riding high' in the 8th (the position that cost Kenny his job). Our decent run has coincided with a very easy string of fixtures. Look at all the teams we have beaten this season.....
Norwich
Reading
Wigan
Southampton
West Ham
Fulham
QPR
Sunderland
You would expect these teams to fill the bottom 8 places in the league when May comes around. Every 'test' against someone decent has ended in a draw or a defeat. That is where we are at the moment. We are capable of beating relegation fodder but seriously struggle against anyone expected to finish in the top half.
All I am saying is that we shouldn't get over excited because it is very likely that we will start to slip back down the table now that we are due to come up against some half decent teams.
Please don't over praise Brendan right now, and let's not be overly criticial when results go back to normal. did we not get beat by Wigan, West ham away,Fulham, QPR and drew with Sunderland. All in all a gain of at least 11 points on last year alone? so why exactly then is this no an improvement? you are a perpetual doom and gloomer and are more concerned with being right rather than seeing LFC improve and progress. You were last year and continue to do so now
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Well to be honest you said we struggle against the bigger challenges (bigger sides) we deserved outright to beat United, City, Everton, Newcastle and could have nicked it at Chelsea. I dont see how this is struggling just think it came down to lack of fire power to be fair.
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Indeed. But if that's a cheap dig at me you're well wide of the mark - I made my mind up about him before he was even appointed and have seen nothing to suggest I was wrong, unfortunately. My opinions are consistent and do not sway from one week to the next. I may be many things, but a knee-jerker I ain't. You were talking him up last season when you were raving on about Kenny going mid season so that the new man would have time to look at the squad, what's changed? To be honest, I'd have talked anyone up if it meant getting kenny out of the door sooner!
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Right, so you admit you have no idea what you are talking about and are on a par with Emp?
"Romance has broke down
This boy is crack'in up"
So not a moderator
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Let's not get carried away because we are 'riding high' in the 8th (the position that cost Kenny his job). Our decent run has coincided with a very easy string of fixtures. Look at all the teams we have beaten this season.....
Norwich
Reading
Wigan
Southampton
West Ham
Fulham
QPR
Sunderland
You would expect these teams to fill the bottom 8 places in the league when May comes around. Every 'test' against someone decent has ended in a draw or a defeat. That is where we are at the moment. We are capable of beating relegation fodder but seriously struggle against anyone expected to finish in the top half.
All I am saying is that we shouldn't get over excited because it is very likely that we will start to slip back down the table now that we are due to come up against some half decent teams.
Please don't over praise Brendan right now, and let's not be overly criticial when results go back to normal. you are a perpetual doom and gloomer and are more concerned with being right rather than seeing LFC improve and progress. You were last year and continue to do so now You're over complicating this particular topic. Yes, we have beaten teams this year that we lost to last year but you're not considering the 'vice versa' scenario, otherwise we'd be challenging for the title. I'm simply saying that no one should get carried away, as we have only beaten relegation fodder teams. In order for us to progress we need to ALSO beat teams that would usually finish above us, in order to catch up. It's no use bragging about claiming the scalps of wigan and qpr if we're getting beaten by the likes of villa & stoke.
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Indeed. But if that's a cheap dig at me you're well wide of the mark - I made my mind up about him before he was even appointed and have seen nothing to suggest I was wrong, unfortunately. My opinions are consistent and do not sway from one week to the next. I may be many things, but a knee-jerker I ain't. You were talking him up last season when you were raving on about Kenny going mid season so that the new man would have time to look at the squad, what's changed? To be honest, I'd have talked anyone up if it meant getting kenny out of the door sooner! Quite a bright student but must do better!
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Right, so you admit you have no idea what you are talking about and are on a par with Emp? Not sure how you've come to that conclusion, but if insulting me makes you happy then perhaps you shouldn't be responsible for moderating an abuse-free forum?
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i can see what careex is saying take a level view rather than reacting to each win or defeat it was always going to be a bumpy ride. the kop chanting rodgers twice last night was a positive sign for brendan
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yah, i've had my differences with carheex but i think all he's saying is that we have to keep our feet on the ground.
the upcoming away games with arsenal and the two mancs will probably see us lose a bit of ground. folks shouldn't panic after these games cos there will be opportunity to pick up wins against teams later.
having said that, whereas we have a poor points return against top half teams, i don't think the performances agianst them all has been all that poor.
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