KopTalk.com Forums Football Liverpool FC Forum Sahin's time at LFC coming to a premature end?

i just love how fans can be bias in how they look at players. I i have yet to see what makes allen hendo and shelvey a shoe in the first 11 over Sahin, the only person that has more goals is shelvey and thats because he played more games and couple of them as a striker. Even when lucas came back allen was given the opportunity to play higher up and he did nothing, there was never a time that Sahin played so poorly he was attacked and had to close his twitter account.

To top it all off wasn't it a couple months ago everyone on here was having the discussion on if Stevie G is to be sold because hes passed his best after a string of poor results, and most fans found every possible excuse to why Stevie wasn't playing well.

I wont say Sahin as been world class but at no given time was he the worst in the squad even on our best day. I think its all about money because i cant see how Sahin is behind shelvey and henderson.

I dont like Allen much any more to be honest. Looked good at first but does he have any other attributes apart from pass pass pass? I'd have Gerrard, Lucas, Henderson and Shelvey in over him now.

That's great support for you!

Well sorry i wont blindly follow a player. He hasn't done much all season. 0 goals 0 assists. Is that the type of form you want from LFC players? Doubt it. He keeps things "ticking over", but that's something we don't and haven't needed for the past couple of years, we need goals and assists something that the other midfield players have been getting.

Players like Sami Khedira and Luka Modric for example haven't scored and assisted too much this season but they are still good players. Allen is a good player, he's just finding his feet, he has shown some of his quality during the season.

Am I saying that he doesn't need to score or assist, no. I am saying that he does have quality and he'll get there, he's a young guy and is slowly finding his feet and his position. He almost scored a couple of times today.

Plus, it's not as if Lucas scores or assists much, but he's still bloody good.

I cannot understand the criticism Sahin is receiving, he has barely been played on a regular basis. I think he has started less then 10 games for us, not very fair to judge him on that. I still think he is a quality player that can offer us a different dimension when plan A is not working. I hope we keep him.

Don't think he's played a full 90 mins either, doesn't he always get subbed even when his performances have been decent

i think on the balance of things he has been poor for a while, both here and at Madrid. The prem is too fast for him at the moment. Niggly injuries have also kept him out of the squad.
if we had signed him I would imagine that next season he would shine as he gets used to the speed and his team mates. Unfortunately for him and all loan players is that they have to stand out very quickly. so far he has not.

Finding his feet? What exactly do you mean by that? He's been a regular in the prem for 18 months, working under BR and his 'system' all that time. If he's still 'finding his feet' there must be some kind of problem.

I still can't see for the life of me why we signed JA. He gives us next to nothing in terms of offense or defence. If his job is simply to pass it 5 feet to his nearest team mate, I could do that for a fraction of what he's earning.

We all know that we paid about 3 times his value because of the clause saying we couldn't approach Swansea players for 12 months unless they waived the restriction - in other words if we offered them stupidly over the top money as per normal, they would take it and run. For me, he is rodgson's most disappointing signing by far.

I think you know what it means to find your feet. Plus, he did fairly well at Swansea.