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if you think a professional sports man love my club and my city more than me , and lets get it right they contribute nothing to the city of liverpool living on the wirral , if you knew me personally you would know i and my family have and very much do . I don't doubt it faz. The fact is though, I'll never understand the extent of your disdain for the man. He's not hanging around the club or city because he wants to bleed either dry or ruin either. You'd swear he was some sort of monster the way you and the other fella go on about him. Totally unbefitting of Liverpool fans to show such a massive level of disrespect to a man who has done so much for both your club and city. You should be admiring the man, not hating on him. I'll never understand it faz. Never. along with the previous owners , and now everytime liverpool dont win the clamour is embarrassing for him to return , like some sort of messiah which he is far from , said it earlier he did bring massive success but also massive failure and spent millions to do it and the club are still paying for his mistakes IE aquilani . You say this a lot - do you hate Ged as much as you hate Rafa?
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if you think a professional sports man love my club and my city more than me , and lets get it right they contribute nothing to the city of liverpool living on the wirral , if you knew me personally you would know i and my family have and very much do . I don't doubt it faz. The fact is though, I'll never understand the extent of your disdain for the man. He's not hanging around the club or city because he wants to bleed either dry or ruin either. You'd swear he was some sort of monster the way you and the other fella go on about him. Totally unbefitting of Liverpool fans to show such a massive level of disrespect to a man who has done so much for both your club and city. You should be admiring the man, not hating on him. I'll never understand it faz. Never. along with the previous owners , and now everytime liverpool dont win the clamour is embarrassing for him to return , like some sort of messiah which he is far from , said it earlier he did bring massive success but also massive failure and spent millions to do it and the club are still paying for his mistakes IE aquilani . You say this a lot - do you hate Ged as much as you hate Rafa? houllier ? no why he left a team in the CL , with players like hyypia , riise , hamann to name a few .
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Im with JoeCool (strange, i know), the man who sent Liverpool Football Club in to real decline was Kenny Dalglish. A great man, legendary man, but when he took the reigns late 80's thats when we really went downhill, he then came back and steadied the ship to some extent, but set us back to before Rafa's time with terrible, dross signings. I dont think Rafa started the decline as he left a squad including Gerrard, Agger, Skrtel, Reina, Johnson, Lucas, Torres etc. Dont understand how this is in any way a decline, he also found out our old owners before anyone else did, so again i dont understand how he started the decline. I agree with both sides to an extent but Faz to be fair Rafa has done so much for club and city and to hear a Liverpool fan talk about him like u do is quiet alarming.
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You say this a lot - do you hate Ged as much as you hate Rafa? houllier ? no why he left a team in the CL , with players like hyypia , riise , hamann to name a few . Rafa left us with Reina, Mascherano, Torres to name a few. GH may have left us in the CL, but that wasn't a mammoth feat back then - it was a lot tougher to achieve by the end of Rafa's reign - hence why GH lost his job despite finishing 4th. If Rafa hadn't have been the success that he was, then maybe your view on Houllier wouldn't be so lenient? You think he left us in a better state because Rafa led us to success in the aftermath of Houllier's departure. Had Rafa continued to bring us down, you could have said GH "started the rot". It seems to me like you're essentially punishing Rafa for the failures of Hodgson, Kenny and Brendan (so far).
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Im with JoeCool (strange, i know), the man who sent Liverpool Football Club in to real decline was Kenny Dalglish. A great man, legendary man, but when he took the reigns late 80's thats when we really went downhill, he then came back and steadied the ship to some extent, but set us back to before Rafa's time with terrible, dross signings. I dont think Rafa started the decline as he left a squad including Gerrard, Agger, Skrtel, Reina, Johnson, Lucas, Torres etc. Dont understand how this is in any way a decline, he also found out our old owners before anyone else did, so again i dont understand how he started the decline. I agree with both sides to an extent but Faz to be fair Rafa has done so much for club and city and to hear a Liverpool fan talk about him like u do is quiet alarming. i would agree with that assessment but would add poor owners and lack of infrastruture investment. no way did our decline start with rafa it was 15 years before that
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Seriously lads... can we just call this a stalemate and move on. It's getting really boring now... then ignore the thread.
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Seriously lads... can we just call this a stalemate and move on. It's getting really boring now... Then do what I do when I don't like a thread - stop clicking on the thread! Simple.
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Bar,
Please don t waste your time with Faz and KP.
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I wonder where is Steve Mcnaman now?
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Bar,
Please don t waste your time with Faz and KP. asked you the other day when you made this sort of comment why ??
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