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Sahin is a world class player. He hasn't been given any kind of run in his best position to show what he can do. If rodgson thinks that allen or henderson are better than him, it just shows how totally clueless he really is. They should be cleaning his boots, not taking his place on the pitch!

Nobody should be in the team on reputation alone. Sahin hasn't done any more than either of them two in a Liverpool shirt to prove that he deserves to be there more than them. You must have seen something that I haven't.


He's not been brilliant but he has been better than them despite getting fewer opportunities. If we've given Madrid a few million for his services for the season we might aswell give him a chance. Allen's had a chance and done next to nothing. Henderson has had 18 months and still looks like a pizza delivery boy. Surely coming from Madrid and being the German player of the year means he's got a bit more to his game than people are giving him credit for.

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I think the papers are trying to make fire without any signs of smoke.

The logic they have used is that he isn't playing and that they have bought the "poor" story we have been singing.
In reality he just had an operation on his broken nose, and regarding our finances even the manager has said that this year was always going to be tough but wont be in the future. I believe this is because we had to absorb losses for the break even.
We still have the Carroll situation to solve, before the we are out of this mess.


The other thing about Sahin is that his preferred position is a deeper midfielder (he said this himself). One that can see the play in front of him and pick out passes. The problem is that the EPL is a tough league to adjust to and he might not have the physical ability to be a success here.

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Originally Posted By: CarheeX
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Sahin is a world class player. He hasn't been given any kind of run in his best position to show what he can do. If rodgson thinks that allen or henderson are better than him, it just shows how totally clueless he really is. They should be cleaning his boots, not taking his place on the pitch!

Nobody should be in the team on reputation alone. Sahin hasn't done any more than either of them two in a Liverpool shirt to prove that he deserves to be there more than them. You must have seen something that I haven't.


He's not been brilliant but he has been better than them despite getting fewer opportunities. If we've given Madrid a few million for his services for the season we might aswell give him a chance. Allen's had a chance and done next to nothing. Henderson has had 18 months and still looks like a pizza delivery boy. Surely coming from Madrid and being the German player of the year means he's got a bit more to his game than people are giving him credit for.

I disagree wholeheartedly that he's been better than them. Allen hasn't been great lately, but for the first month or so he looked fantastic (you'll probably disagree). Henderson hasn't been a world beater, but he has had a number of good games for us. Brendan Rodgers was happy to offer Henderson as part of the Dempsey deal in August, yet now he's showing a lot of faith in him and he's worked his way right into his plans - that should speak volumes to you. He's obviously impressed the manager with his attitude and workrate. I'd imagine that it may be lack of these qualities as to why Sahin isn't in the team.

Being German player of the year two years ago means nothing now. Having quality is one thing, but it's no use to us if he's not showing it. I want him to be a success, but that's looking increasingly likely to happen. We got him on a season loan deal - if it's true that we're looking to cancel it half way through, then you can bet there's a good reason for it - and as much as you want it to be, it's not the manager's incompetency.


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Sahin has under performed but he's a nice price of equipment that needs to be put in the right position. Only get rid if we have a better replacement lines up. I've heard grameiro coming in on loan. Maybe it's wages.


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Sahin has been poor for us and was for madrid as well. If he was world class and producing world class performances then he would not be here on loan.

Carheex hates Henderson so will never offer a reasonable view point (so should be ignored), even though he has been one of our best performers in the last month and fully deserves his chance.
I would be surprised if we let Sahin go though, expect him to play Sunday.

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haha yeah true

Sahin to play at Mansfield and puts in a "World Class" performance against the painters and decorators and cements his position as a world class midfielder... I can see it now.

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Originally Posted By: "http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/sahin-advocates-winter-break"
"Sahin - who is currently recovering from an operation on his nose"


Don't think he will play

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The only way I'd support his loan move being cancelled is if we bring in another CM as a replacement - be that a permanent or loan move. Sahin's been poor, but we can't let him go without a replacement.


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It's unfair to judge him. He's gotquality. Rings bells of aqualani IMO. Does t seem to be up for the physical game. Rodgers likes him. Well see in time

P.s no news on sturridge. They are probably doing a documentary at melwood about it. Bore off


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Would be an ideal opportunity,as we need to rest the Hendominator.


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