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Originally Posted By: Marko2709
True and I expected this to be brought up but you have to understand and admit that football was a very different game, let alone business, back then...can we afford to wait that long or will we fall to far behind to ever come back?


ok so you want us to not be able name a "top manager who was in 10th position almost midway thorugh the season in the last 5 years" in order to validate your opinion?

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Originally Posted By: Marko2709
True and I expected this to be brought up but you have to understand and admit that football was a very different game, let alone business, back then...can we afford to wait that long or will we fall to far behind to ever come back?


It's 11 v 11, same as it always was and the best 11 win the major honours, same as they always did.



Not quite, it's a business now and not just a game..and the pace other clubs are moving forward at seems to exceed the pace we are moving at.


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Originally Posted By: Marko2709
True and I expected this to be brought up but you have to understand and admit that football was a very different game, let alone business, back then...can we afford to wait that long or will we fall to far behind to ever come back?


What top manager will be taking over?

You say money talks and we can pull one with a big offer but we don't have that money, you said we've spent 130m in the past few seasons and that would of been enough to bring in this top manager with a starting transfer kitty of 60M, but like I said the sale of Torres put that transfer budget up and we won't be selling 50M players every few seasons...

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I do however agree with you saying BR isn't playing to the teams strength, he is stuck in his ways and no Plan B has been apparent. It's him that needs to adapt his ways to suit the players at his disposal and slowly adjust it once he gets more players in that suit his style.

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Originally Posted By: Marko2709
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True and I expected this to be brought up but you have to understand and admit that football was a very different game, let alone business, back then...can we afford to wait that long or will we fall to far behind to ever come back?


It's 11 v 11, same as it always was and the best 11 win the major honours, same as they always did.



Not quite, it's a business now and not just a game..and the pace other clubs are moving forward at seems to exceed the pace we are moving at.


It was always a business but in the last few years we have done some very poor business.

We blew our chance to catch those above us when we squandered £100million on a herd of goats.

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Originally Posted By: Divide et Impera
I do however agree with you saying BR isn't playing to the teams strength, he is stuck in his ways and no Plan B has been apparent. It's him that needs to adapt his ways to suit the players at his disposal and slowly adjust it once he gets more players in that suit his style.


That's exactly what I'm getting at. He needs to realise this and adapt his tactical approach to suit the players at his disposal. I think it is poor management on his behalf that he has failed to realize this already and that his approach has cost us on more than one occasion.


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Originally Posted By: TheKopProphet
What truth is hard to swallow? Everybody just speculates.... no one knows the truth of our situation at all. So many threads start with some pontification on matters of "truth" but we're all swimming in the dark. We have owners that are extremely (infuriatingly perhaps) prudent... they are long-termists, slow builders, big picture types. I don't think they'll be panicking. I don't think (but don't know for sure) that they are broke or disinterested. They are certainly learning the ropes... and they probably see BR as a building project that will take some time and planning.

We should have put Villa away in 20 minutes last weekend. It's the same old story - we lack the killer touch and are undone by a momentary piece of optimism from an opposing team. We don't score goals like Benteke's first... we need players with that sort of sense of opportunism. We are more likely missing important pieces of the jigsaw than teetering on the rim of impending doom and demise. I'd rather see all this as the beginnings of an opportunity to build - rather than live in fear of every twist and turn in the road.


Speculation.

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Originally Posted By: Pops
To be fair on Buck, he hasn't had the squads that any of Jose's teams have had, and he really hasn't had any proper time with a decent scouting set up to make his mark. His buys haven't been to bad at all, but he needs to be given the chance to make his own team a bit more.


Assaidi - little action

Borini - over priced, did nothing before injury

Allen - over priced

Sahin - done nothing

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KopProphet...the TRUTH I am reffering to is the fact that we have become a mid table side and BR is not doing anything toimprove us at the moment and is not filling anyone with confidence. That is THE TRUTH! I am not speculating about that, it is plain for all to see, BR at the moment is not leading Liverpool to the CL! That is a fact...everuone who has eyes can see it! That is the TRUH, and it is hard to swallow!

Now perhaps you could stop attacking everyone who starts a thread that might not go along with your views or dares to criticise the manager or players!


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To be fair on Buck, he hasn't had the squads that any of Jose's teams have had, and he really hasn't had any proper time with a decent scouting set up to make his mark. His buys haven't been to bad at all, but he needs to be given the chance to make his own team a bit more.


Assaidi - little action

Borini - over priced, did nothing before injury

Allen - over priced

Sahin - done nothing


But again... in reality... you could say all those players but Allen have seen little action. It took Henry and Cantona a season or two to get going in the Prem.


Why has Sahin seen little action? Why has Assaindi seen little action?


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