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I can feel the festive joy and spirit

im getting bored of it. faz and KP, every thread you are on, if someone doesnt agree with you you are insulting them. give it a rest. if your point cant stand up on its own without the insults, then maybe they are shiit.

insults really dont think so ,

i do. i think you will find if you talk down to people, question their qualities as a fan of the club, question their intelligence etc etc, it equates to an insult. just make your point without the add ons, its not getting you or the forum anywhere good.

my opinion about the modern day liverpool supporter my opinion sorry if it doesnt suit .

modern day my ass, is this an episode of life on mars? youre in the modern day, deal with it. do you think you are on a forum full of 18 year olds? get a grip of yourself.

yeh ok but my opinion

So back to the topic......and before I begin, how about a bit of respect to the manager and at least refer to him by his proper name Carheex!
Difficult to judge him against other managers because every situation is different. Given we were badly beaten on the weekend but its only the third time we have been dominated against for the season. We haven't had any luck with numerous penalties not given and goals disallowed incorrectly! Had we won on the weekend we would have been 4pts from 3rd and up to 8th but unfortunately we didn't. We're still only 7pts from 3rd and also 7 from relegation so no we aren't doing as well as maybe we should be. Whilst I am beginning to get frustrated I still think with the addition of a good striker in January we will improve and move up the table because the competition is wide open from 3rd down to 12th.
Rodgers does need to keep a but more quiet but i assume he is trying to prtray a positive message to the fans and media but sometimes the less said the better. we need to tighten up at the back and have a better balance in team structur when we dont have the ball or is in dispute.
Lets hope FSG put the cash up and hopefully Ridgers can make the right signing for us to make a difference.

I really don't see anything wrong with the term "Rodgson" , it's Carheex's point of view...having said that I also don't feel that KP and Faz insulted Carheex and Stanley directly although their comments could be said to be a bit provocative.

However, is that not the whole point of the forum, to have some provocative posts and topics for debate? I find that I often disagree with KP and Fazakerley but I do enjoy the banter and debate. It is what keeps me coming back and posting and as long as there is no name calling and insulting going on I see nothing wrong with it.

Now, moving on, KopProphet, I understand what you are saying about "walk on through the rain" and so on, but you have to realise that certain fans, such as myself and posibbly Carheex, feel that we have been walking through the rain, for the past 15 or so years, and now want to see the sunshine!

I support whichever manager is in charge, but i do not necessarily agree that they should be in charge. Whilst I will always support the team and the manager, if I believe change is needed I will voice my opinion. It is not a sign of disrespect or loss of support, quite the opposite, it is a sign that I want what I believe is best for our club. If BR is not upto scratch IMO I will voice my concerns and call for a new manager or new owners.

We are slowly slipping, with every season we are finding ourselves lower and lower on the league table and we are accepting it as fans with the excuse that it takes time to build a team eetc etc. However, as City and Chelsea have proven recently, it doesn't take that much time when you have a decent manager and proper funding. I don't agree with the way these clubs are run but that is how the game is nowadays and what is necessary to compete at top level.

Not only have they won the league recently but are constantly in the top 4 spots and constantly playing CL football, which is what we are striving towards. These excuses we are being fed via the LFC press office and owners that we are building a young, new team and that we have our own philosophy are rubbish. We are doing this because we are financially constrained to doing it. If they had the money to spend, they would and if we had a top class manager we would also perform.

If you look at Inter as an example, before Mourinho they did regularly compete in Serie A but in Europe they were nowhere. Inter was known as a side that would pass the group stage and then drop out right afterwards. With a top class manager they managed to win it! Secondly, look at Porto, again a side without huge finances, but with a great manager when Mourinho was in charge, they managed to win the CL too! So the impact a great manager has is undeniable.

Mourinho did not spend more than 3 years as manager of any one club, he was a Porto for 2, at Inter for 2 and at Chelski for 3 years...and manaed to win the CL with 2 of those clubs and league titles with all 3. That is what a great manager does,he didn't need time to build his team or install his philosophy! He looked at who he had and made his team play to their qualities!

Agree that this is the approach that BR should've taken. Rather than demotivating Carroll etc... look at their qualities and, at least in the short term, make best use of them. He could then have gradually moved to his preferred style. That way he would've got better value when he sells players on too.

However, it all depends on what his remit was from the owners. That's the unknown. It may be that he's doing exactly what they asked him to do.