KopTalk.com Forums Football Liverpool FC Forum STOP YA MOANING.

stop ya bloody moaning. yeah where having a terrible season by our standards i have to agree.and the thing rafa is responsible for is the state of our squad. but for fu ck sake we were 30seconds from going in to the next round of the cup,drew our last game with a last minute goal.how is rafa at fault for last min goals. baffles me. and should have won them. won our last 2 prem games before that.yeah where all upset about the league gone by xmas. but look at the injuries we ve had. not had a FULL AND FIT squad all season. but it seems to me everyone thinks it easy to sack and replace the guy who just last year beat the mancs home and away beat Real home and away got this squad more or less to score 4 goals past them too and chelsea and arsenal. STOP YA MOANING. if anyone else thinks something like the same then do tell

we dropped 29 points so far this year. we had one solid LFC performance so far, against united. the rest of the time we look shakey, unsure, but most worrying, we are getting worse, not better. yes we nearly won those games and got pipped in the end, but luck favours the confident and the positive, and that is not us, it hasnt been all season. plus those games should have been killed off, we shouldnt be clinging on in the last few minutes of games against stoke and reading. and when was the last team we comfortably beat anyone? we do a ho down everytime we score these days, and a win feels like winning a lottery. we are very fortunate that other clubs are dropping points, its the only thing that has stopped us ending up out of the 4th place race, and ya can be sure raffa would be gone by then. he's starting to remind me of houl, leaving aqua pach and maxi on the bench yesterday was madness.

aqua played 120 mins on wed and he just come back from bad injury so that why. maxi not match fit not played for a few week. and as good as WE THINK. pach is, he is only 3ft tall and about as strong as a wet paper bag. so if ya think about it when ya going to be playing 1 of the most physical teams in the league without ya star men surly you can see why.

no i cant, because
a) we paid 20 million for aqua. gerrard plays all the time and he;s older. ALL the time, why cant aqualani? is he 90 years old? if he can play 120 on wed he can play at least an hour on sat. these guys are athletes for christ sake.
b) We are 7th, everything is on the line and the best 11 should be out there till we are in a better position in the league. when a ship is sinking, the crew are not takin it in turns to bucket the water over the side while the others have a kip, they are all up there busting their b*llox because thats what it takes.
c) pach is the only creative attacking player we have outside of torres or gerrard. kuyt is car crashing all over the place so play maxi, cant be any worse, ngog is not up to it. doesnt matter what size pach is, if they cant catch him they cant tackle him, same for all good small players. we dont need to match stoke in the physical game because we should be outclassing them. if it was ferguson in charge he would have pach out every week, simply because he has loads of energy, positivity and ability. what the f*ck is raffa waiting on.

WTF are you going on about. 90 year old he,s ad a bad injury one that years ago could have finished a carear. what if he played and then broke down again and out for rest of season.plus he,s done sod all to say he should be in 1st 11 yet anyway. and what ya going on about sinking ship and bukets. are you watching titanic. and your new hero ferguson didnt play ronaldo every week at first.

eb do you actually have any footie knowledge whasoever? aqualani has been fit for weeks now - fit enough to play 90 minutes but not get them ...... if a player, any player, is not capable of playing 120 minutes midweek and then 90 minutes on the weekend, then there is either a problem with his training or his attitude

ronaldo didn't play every week because fergie had plenty of options - rafa has no options as he won't buy any creative, attacking players and the three we do have are out injured ..... pacheco needs games now not in a few years time ...... all this crap about his size is just that - zola was shorter than pacheco, as was owen when he made his debut against probably the most physical team the english league has ever seen ..... perhaps you would like to think back to how his debut went? did his height make a difference?

how can anyone be positive? we've just had three very poor displays on the run.before that,yes sure we won 2 games,wolves and villa. wolves we were terrible and villa very lucky to win. 90 minutes of dross,settling for a 0 -0 draw and we get a lucky deflection into torres path. previous to those games our last decent dosplay was against united! this season it's been non stop garbage,week after week. doesnt matter if torres and gerrard do play,the team as a whole is rubbish. the football is rubbish and the excuses are a load of rubbish.

injuries,bad luck,bad refs,last minute goals,lack of maoney and even beach balls are no excuse for shyte performanaces week in week out

have to agree there Kopite...the defensive, lets not lose mentality has swept through and we're toos acred to even try and win a game...just in case we LOSE...well we've done our fair share of that this season so things should change!!
We've played boring football all season and I'm afraid, whatever the reasons are, it's time for Rafa to go! Playing the style of football we've been playing this season will get us nowhere no matter who is on the pitch!

Trepie and Flameboy are right. Rafa is not playing these players because he is a stubborn pr*ck. What are we waiting for? A relegation battle?

It's all about tactics and teams selections, which is something Rafa controls. Yes he can't stop last minute goals but he can make so that last minute goal doesn't mean anything by attacking and scoring more than one goal.

As I said - tactics and team selelctions