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Read an interesting item on another forum has the days of big clubs come to an and or at least becoming less polarised.

Utd and city are top but in truth are not that good especially utd these days. Chelsea and arsenal are heading for crisis. Liverpool are out of the game and have been for a while. it seems the new breed are well run tight ships everton, spurs, newcastle.

also i believe the days of the oligarch might be coming to an end and the novelty could be wearing off.

i might be wrong of course but its a welcome trend we see here and Liverpool aside the more open the prem the better the game.

Thoughts

prem is poor this year, city are still a big mess and will be till they get rid of mancini. utd are crap at the back but will soon kick into squeaky bum form and run away with the prem. the other two positions in the top 4 are up for grabs. I have a fancy for stoke to get one of them, all u need to be is big,strong and consistent and they are.
We should have easily gotten in to top 4 but fsg decided that lfc no longer has that ambition.

The bigger the club, the more revenue it has to spend on transfers and wages. Smaller clubs can't sustain the competition over a few years. Short brief success only.

Spurs finished 07-08 11th
Newcastle where relegated.

What do they both have in common? solid fan base and revenue to bounce back.

Everton where regular relegation battlers, but what changed was that they got good money for a local lad, and this has happened again with Lescott & most recently Rodwell. They also have a solid fan base when compared to the other teams.

Utd haven't looked anything special for a while. The last player that truly scared me for them was Ronaldo. In fact when we play them I used to be more worried about the John O'Sheas of the world because we always conceded goals to clumsy defenders. As for the others . . . the simple fact remains that football, as we know it at least, has almost reached its peak of optimisation and all clubs are catching up. I suspect in the future there will be little difference between the Championship and the Premiership. It doesn't matter anymore if you are super-rich clubs. You can only play 11 players at any one time and on their day any 11 can beat any other 11. It may sound ridiculous, but if every single club played to the absolute best of their ability against Man City . . .and Man City had a below par game week in week out, they could finish bottom of the Premiership with zero points. Since Wenger came in and led the way with 'optimisation' the rest of the pack have caught up. This is one of the reasons Arsenal are not the force they once were. Wenger is no longer special. Too many managers have studied under him. Getting 11 players to outplay 11 other players. That's all this game is about. Forget everything else. History. Fans etc. 11 v 11.

sounds good to me kubrick

one of the greatest football achievnents ever was brian clough when got forest promoted and then the very first season up won the title. i would love to see the equivalent again championship to prem.

we can dream

Arsenals problems are directly related to the cost of the stadium. Don't be foolish and think that Arsenal wont bounce back.
ManU have leveraged loans that has caused them serious restrictions. I suspect when a new manager arrives he will be granted with money.


The puzzling new trend is that Chelsea look world beaters at the start of the season and nobody wants to play them, then they just stop playing and have to fight in games before they start to look good again be the end of the season. It happen last year as it did this year. That is what I find puzzling.

thats an interesting theory alright kubrick.

don't agree with it at all but its interesting

completely agree, Arsenal's dire straits is finishing 4th or 5th which says it all really, they will most definately get stronger and stronger the more the stadium gets paid for which should be within the next year or two so its frightening to what they could achieve with the best Infilstructure in world football...

I believe we also achieved that feat in 1904-05 season and then took 2 seasons in 1964 to win division 1. Stayed up ever since, I know it probably a useless statistic but since 1964 LFC have an average league position 3 place only bettered by UTD and arsenal.

Looks to me that Manure is going to run away with it, no City to cheer me up like last game of last season this time.