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yes. that's what i'm saying.
it's all relative cos if west brom finished ahead of us, for example, we can always say "hey look, west brom made more progress than us". i don't care about other teams. if we finish 6th, for example, and had stoke, fulham, swansea, everton and west ham above us instead of city, utd, chelsea, spurs and arsenal, i still wouldn't be concerned. all i'm thinking is "we finished 6th, last season we finised 8th. we have a better season"
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So if we gain a higher position in the Table but lose more games with a lower points total, you will take it as us making progress as a team? Yes, it would also mean that the teams' strengths are more balanced but we have progressed compared to others. Also, progressing less than the overall average even if we have progressed compared to ourselves is not worthwhile.
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So losing more games means we have progressed....I think we have a different definition in mind for the word progress.
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So you do expect to beat them? Despite the fact that they just beat Chelsea 3-1 and had the same net spend as us and we are without our top scorer?
I don't get what relevance them loaning Andy Carroll has to anything? He wasn't going to fit into our plans and went to a team where the manager knows him well and they play a style far more suited to them? Of course I expect us to win, Chelsea should have finished the game in the first half but missed a number of chances and paid for it. If I stop expecting LFC to beat teams that were just promoted, I don't know which teams I should expect us to beat, should it only be those fighting in the relegation zone? Common, cannot believe that we are that bad. I wish I shared your optimism for this game. West Ham are not performing like a team just promoted and the majority of their players would have premier league experience. You do realise that last year we only managed 2 wins against promoted teams so it is by no means a guarantee
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There are no guarantees in football, but, we should expect to beat teams that have just been promoted. KD lost his job because he could not win those kind of games.
I don't expect us to beat the Manchester teams, Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs especially away, but surely we should be able to beat West Ham. I am dead sure that we have a better squad than them.
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But should we expect to win those games is the question when we are missing our only potent goal threat especially against a well drilled team who have drawn and beaten 2 of the top 4 teams
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But should we expect to win those games is the question when we are missing our only potent goal threat especially against a well drilled team who have drawn and beaten 2 of the top 4 teams So you would expect them to finish in the top 4 this season then?
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Of course I wouldn't but would you expect us to? We are missing our most important player which you seem to be dismissing as not important to the outcome
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Only teams we seem to beat are the ones in the relegation battle.
Ands thats with Suarez in the team.
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Of course I wouldn't but would you expect us to? We are missing our most important player which you seem to be dismissing as not important to the outcome A team like LFC cannot depend on only one player for a game against a team that has just been promoted. I know Suarez is important but he missed 9 games in a row last season, missing one game happens and will happen to any player. The manager needs to have a fallback option, planning for such cases is his job for god's sake. I cannot see myself going to my Chairman saying that we couldn't reach the company's target because ONE of my subbordinates missed a couple of days work, he would immediately tell me that this is very poor planning and risk management. In any case, Suarez was not played in a number of games (cups) this season and it's nothing new, he cannot anyway play all games, he is only human. The day I stop believing that LFC can beat a newly promoted team will be the day I'll stop following LFC or believe that we do not have the right manager (unless of course the newly promoted team has recruited massively and is on top of the league). We are talking about West Ham and Big Sam FFS (no disrespect but common). Really shows your belief in LFC despite having according to you our best manager in the last 10 years.
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