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Ah well i suppose if u were banned for less i get where your coming from. I did often call JoeFool JoeFool to be fair but if i were to get banned over that id be feeling very hard done by, there's a huge difference betweed tool doofus etc and pr!ck, wan*er etc

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I don't think he was looking for you to be banned, just airing a grievance that there isn't any consitency when it comes to bans being handed out. I wouldn't take that personally. As Maxi said though, it isn't wakka or flames who decide who's banned, it shouldn't be aimed at them either..


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Originally Posted By: Maxi88
Originally Posted By: vish mauritius
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he mightn't have a seat soon. i think we are wasting our time with him. i think the being liverpool idea was a terrible idea, even though it wasnt his, it has made a mockery of the club and manager and the more the poor results and performances rack up, the more BR is getting exposed. its should be rebranded beating liverpool.

we are becoming more like a political party than a football club. every interview is about appeasing the public, making excuses, focusing on postives instead of results. i think he would be a terrific person to work with the youth system, but he doesnt have what we need to turn this club around. he was always an outside shot. he has done some could things bringing youth through, but we are miles away from challenging on a serious level. not only do we lack depth and talent, but we lack back bone. we make every game difficult no matter who the opposition. (granted previous managers have done that too). its not about players either, there are a couple of teams in the CL at the moment that are playing out of their skin. they are not big budget teams, they are simply well oiled, well versed and well organised. they are enjoying their football and are ambitious in their approach.... and here we are fuucking about with stewart downing, joe cole and trying to convince ourselves that joe allen or shelvey might just be the next gerrard.

its all nonsense lads, we have been in this hole for so long that we are starting to see things that just aint there. with that said, i will never buy into the ridiculous (wum) arguement that we are no longer a big club. thats bolx. we are an absolutely massive club and will continue to be for decades to come. we just have the wrong people at the helm. again.


1) Being Liverpool wasn't his idea - you said it yourself yet blame him?

2) We lost 1 game in the last 10 against a good Tottenham team where we should have had a penalty and deserved more out of the game as admitted by their manager

3) we won this weekend yet you're on giving out about him?

4) He is being forced to play Downing and Henderson because of the purchases of previous owners. Allen started very well, has had a dip in form but will hopefully pick it back up now that Lucas is back

5) Lucas is back, a player whom BR said was going to be a crucial cog in his team

6) It is 6 months into his tenure, hardly a long enough time to judge if he can or can't turn things around, particularly as we are creating chances in games but just not converting them.

7) No manager would have us challenging with this squad of players

8) The teams playing out of their skins-
Everton- a well established playing staff coupled with a very good manager
West Brom - A very good manager playing good football and picked up 4 wins on the trot to catapult them up the table
Swansea- Laudrup doing an excellent job building on the work done by Rodgers and Martinez before him.

9)This is a completely new formation and ideology that our players are trying to play and it will take time to adapt to it. It took our defence the guts of 10 league and Europa games to look solid and then it clicked and we have kept 5 clean sheets in the last 9 league games. We have also only failed to score in 1 of those games

10) we are still a big club and will probably always have a relatively large support regardless of league position but that means nothing in actual terms when we don't have massive amounts of cash to spend on transfers and have a very small playing squad. It will probably take the next 2 windows to have a manageable squad going forward devoid of most of the deadwood of previous managers and more academy prospects making the jump to senior status


Maxi, I just feel that you will support BR no matter what even against your own expectations. Remember the 10 points you were expecting in our last 5 games to decide whether we were progressing or not? We didn't and I feel nothing has changed in your belief for some reasons.


Because I can see that their is an improvement in the team in the last 10 league games. Yes we didn't get the 10 points that I set as a target. I suppose I should immediately turn against a manager that I believe in? I'd prefer to have a little patience and see how we get on at the end of the season. If you do remembe from any of our previous conversations, I have always said that I will judge BR on an improvement in the 2nd half of the season and not just 5 games.

Why are you so against BR?

It used to be that you didn't like the formation because you felt it left us too vulnerable defensively if I remember correctly but we have sorted that out to some extent now do you not agree?
Do you wish Kenny had not been sacked?


This doesn't have anything to do with KD, I am not against BR but not happy with our results as we are missing all targets I have been setting (not so ambitious as the 10 pts) to believe that we are moving in the right direction. We have suddenly become a team fighting hard to move off the second half of the table, would you have accepted that before this season? I still think that we have at least the 7th best team in the league and therefore are underperforming big time.

For the defensive problems, I am not sure that this has been sorted, we conceded 2 against Spurs only last week, 2 against Anzi not too long ago. Yes we did not concede against mighty Wigan and Sunderland but does this prove that we are no longer vulnerable. Teams playing against us still need very few chances to score against us and that was very clear against Spurs.

I would like BR to succeed (i will have a better idea at the end of the season) but he is not doing better than last year after the same number of games, that is a fact and this is what I use to take a view.

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I know yeah i got away with something he was banned for which is unfair, but in all fairness I dont think i'd ever bother reporting anybody on the internet for "abuse" or in my case teasing. But if changing the letter C to and F in JoeCool's name is classed as abuse there really is something gone wrong in society, that right Bra? :-P

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Originally Posted By: IanHorgo
I know yeah i got away with something he was banned for which is unfair, but in all fairness I dont think i'd ever bother reporting anybody on the internet for "abuse" or in my case teasing. But if changing the letter C to and F in JoeCool's name is classed as abuse there really is something gone wrong in society, that right Bra? :-P

Not sure if you made a typo on my name, or whether you were calling me 'bra' as in the modern version of 'bro', but either way, I'm gonna assume you meant that I'm an item of woman's clothing, which I take as a deep insult, so I'm gonna have to report you for that one, sorry.


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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
If rodgers held no interviews or said he is trying to develop kick and rush football what would be the reaction. He can't win. Give the guy some slack he has a difficult job on maybe the hardest in the premership
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Originally Posted By: IanHorgo
I know yeah i got away with something he was banned for which is unfair, but in all fairness I dont think i'd ever bother reporting anybody on the internet for "abuse" or in my case teasing. But if changing the letter C to and F in JoeCool's name is classed as abuse there really is something gone wrong in society, that right Bra? :-P

Not sure if you made a typo on my name, or whether you were calling me 'bra' as in the modern version of 'bro', but either way, I'm gonna assume you meant that I'm an item of woman's clothing, which I take as a deep insult, so I'm gonna have to report you for that one, sorry.


Haha, some on here would.


But back to reality, BR needs time!! Thats my final word on it.

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Originally Posted By: vish mauritius

This doesn't have anything to do with KD, I am not against BR but not happy with our results as we are missing all targets I have been setting (not so ambitious as the 10 pts) to believe that we are moving in the right direction. We have suddenly become a team fighting hard to move off the second half of the table, would you have accepted that before this season? I still think that we have at least the 7th best team in the league and therefore are underperforming big time.

For the defensive problems, I am not sure that this has been sorted, we conceded 2 against Spurs only last week, 2 against Anzi not too long ago. Yes we did not concede against mighty Wigan and Sunderland but does this prove that we are no longer vulnerable. Teams playing against us still need very few chances to score against us and that was very clear against Spurs.

I would like BR to succeed (i will have a better idea at the end of the season) but he is not doing better than last year after the same number of games, that is a fact and this is what I use to take a view.


We can't expect to not concede goals forever but you are dismissing the notion of a clean sheet against smaller teams which is a selective argument.

I have said from the start of the season that this season is a rebuilding season and will judge BR on the 2nd half of it and would hope to see an improvement over those 19 games. So I am not unhappy with our position because I personally can see an improvement in performances and chance creation. Not everyone will agree and that is purely a subjective point but it is enough for me at the minute

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And didn't Anzhi only beat us 1 nil?

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