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Re: Are the owners selling?
Snakeye #288612 03/12/12 08:40 AM
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Yes pure fantasy.

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Re: Are the owners selling?
wakka #288634 03/12/12 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted By: wakka
Yes pure fantasy.


FSG bought LFC because of the impending FFP rules. The same reason why Robert Kraft walked away. Until there is a cap or control of wgaes/spendig then owning and a football club is akin to roulette.
Sensible finance planning and shrewd investment in the club is what was required and is happening. Several German teams are now rising because of prudent planning in spending and player development.
Newcastle 4yrs ago were a laughing stock because the way they spent money, now they are a well run club who are finacially sound and at no risk of going bump.

it would be arrogant to think that we could not do a Leeds or a portsmouth. We need to take our medicine now and later it will be significantly better.
Re: Are the owners selling?
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I think the possibility was there to do a Leeds under H&G but that we are now on a sounder financial footing having reduced the wage bill significantly with further cuts on the way if we can remove the last of the dead wood.
Re: Are the owners selling?
cp1972 #288662 03/12/12 12:56 PM
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Not with you CP I was replying to Snakeyes question,I am in favour of a well run ship myself but I have no faith FFP at the moment plus I am starting to wonder if FSG know what they are doing in regards to making us a succesful outfit.

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Re: Are the owners selling?
wakka #288694 03/12/12 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted By: wakka
Not with you CP I was replying to Snakeyes question,I am in favour of a well run ship myself but I have no faith FFP at the moment plus I am starting to wonder if FSG know what they are doing in regards to making us a succesful outfit.



the first elements of FFP are starting to hit home, transparency of accounts, visible assets and liabilities, club to club payment rules, with holding financial rewards. All the groundwork for FFP to work is now in place and running.
I think it will hit home, if a loohole is found it will be visible and closed thats the beauty of Football, expenditure is visible to all so trying to sneak through 30mil on a player is not easy.
Re: Are the owners selling?
cp1972 #288698 03/12/12 02:25 PM
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Will Uefa ban Barca,Real or Man U for breaking the rules and risk losing massive sponsorship deals, not imo.

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Re: Are the owners selling?
wakka #288705 03/12/12 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted By: wakka
Will Uefa ban Barca,Real or Man U for breaking the rules and risk losing massive sponsorship deals, not imo.


look at the spending of all 3 in the last 3 windows, minimal to the previous 3. They know that a fair playing field is actually to their benefit as their commercial power will give them an advantage over the upstarts of Chelsea, PSG, City and Anzhi.
Re: Are the owners selling?
cp1972 #288712 03/12/12 02:40 PM
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you could be quite correct I just have no faith in uefa or ffp only time will tell.

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Re: Are the owners selling?
JayGB1982 #288717 03/12/12 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted By: JayGB1982
Where has this 450m asking price come from?

Why would FSG only sell to other FSG type owners?

This is all complete nonsense!!

We dont need a billion pound to make us compete in CL again.

We need around £80 million for players to get us back into the top 4 but could perhaps do it with £30 million or so.

Then after a few years of being back in top 4 we can then look at a new stadium potentially.

One step at a time, No club changes everything unless your city. Even Chelsea with their mega millions still dont have a new stadium!

Where is proof that FSG are even looking for buyers?

If they dont invest in January by the tune of around £20 million then I would agree but as it stands they are making the club more profitable and clearing out the deadwood whilst BR is assessing which players he still wants.

There is no way BR could change the squad in the summer window alone, It's going to take time 3 windows minimum to make the changes required. eg Cole and Downing out the club. etc

FSG haven't invested anything since the asset of LFC was bought. LFC makes £40 million per year net profit. I would exppect to see 75% of that spent on players minimum.

The next 6 weeks are vital for our clubs future. The squad need to get a run of wins going. If we are say 7th come Jan but within 8 points off fourth place, Then FSG should invest big in players for that run to a CL place.

We could either spend 2-3 years struggling to manage the finances under them or make a push which could accelerate the clubs strategy.

After they made significant errors and made a open letter to the fans I expect nothing less than a full on onslaught and push to 4th in January.


Are we making 40m profits a year?
Re: Are the owners selling?
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Was this thread made because of the rumour abc made up the other day inside his head that were for sale?
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