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Originally Posted By: CarheeX
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Dalglish had been out of work for a decade! Besides, just because he failed it doesn't mean another ex-manager would also fail. Some teams have had more success when a manager has returned than during his first stint.

Hodgson failed and he wasn't an ex LFC manager. Does that mean we shouldn't employ people who haven't worked for Liverpool? You can't just write off a group of people based on the mistakes of one person.

Rafa is our greatest living manager - only 3 years ago he had us ranked as the number one club in the whole world!!!! Not bad considering he had to work under hicks & gillet. Imagine how he'd do with fully supportive bosses?FSG have made an enormous mistake in hiring Rodgson over Benitez. ENORMOUS!





You won't know that for sure, nothing is certain that if Rafa returned he would of picked us back up and returned us to Europe. But I agree and accept your point to a certain extent.


That'll do me!! grin

I'm not saying RB would have us back in the top 4 by summer and another CL final the following May, but I have 100% confidence that he would be doing considerably better than we have done since he left. No doubt about it whatsoever.


What are your thoughts on his last season here and why do you think we failed to impress that year which lead to him no longer being our manager?

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Don't disagree about Rafa. I'm certainly not a hater. It's just something not sitting right with me about him.

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Originally Posted By: CarheeX
If they didn't back him in August why would they back him in January when they have made it clear that they won't be spending big and are trying to cut costs/balance the books from previous transfer windows? They're not going to get the cheque book out everytime the fans start complaining - that's not how to run a business.

If I was FSG I'd be asking why BR is wanting money for strikers. They gave him the funds to buy Yesil and when he had the option in europe to play either yesil, suarez or morgan he chose to play shelvey up front!! It makes no difference that he scored - the point is, we have strikers available and he isn't using them so why is he trying to buy 2 more? We're not man city!
i would just ask do you think the squad we have got at the moment with losing the likes of kuyt maxi carrol bellamy who are experienced PL players we have the strength in depth to push on this season because were im looking from its screaming out for a proven goal scorer to come in and take the burden from suarez are you saying that the attacking players we have at the club are capable of scoring on a regukar bases because i have grave doubts mate.

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in fairness morgan and yesil have 1 senior appearance between them in their careers. not exactly great experience there. maybe he was just putting it out there. as for the parallel to city...yesil cost 1 million. aguero earns that in under a month.

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If they didn't back him in August why would they back him in January when they have made it clear that they won't be spending big and are trying to cut costs/balance the books from previous transfer windows? They're not going to get the cheque book out everytime the fans start complaining - that's not how to run a business.

If I was FSG I'd be asking why BR is wanting money for strikers. They gave him the funds to buy Yesil and when he had the option in europe to play either yesil, suarez or morgan he chose to play shelvey up front!! It makes no difference that he scored - the point is, we have strikers available and he isn't using them so why is he trying to buy 2 more? We're not man city!
i would just ask do you think the squad we have got at the moment with losing the likes of kuyt maxi carrol bellamy who are experienced PL players we have the strength in depth to push on this season because were im looking from its screaming out for a proven goal scorer to come in and take the burden from suarez are you saying that the attacking players we have at the club are capable of scoring on a regukar bases because i have grave doubts mate.


Something within the team just doesn't seem to be clicking. Whether it's just they're [oops] (which I don't think is the case) or poor form. Suarez at this moment in time is our only real effective goal threat. Enrique is becoming one as of late, johnson looks threatening however has failed to convert, sterling as well. If we do eventually get this new striker that we crave, will BR even be playing 2 up front? with it normally being the lone striker and two wingers? Suarez is doing the job, we just need cover for him incase of Injury or suspension. The rest of the team are letting him down by not contributing at all to the goal tally this season.

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And they won't get any more experience if he doesn't play them! Experience hasn't been an issue all season when the likes of sterling, suso and wisdom have all been getting games.

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Originally Posted By: Divide et Impera
Originally Posted By: CarheeX
Originally Posted By: Divide et Impera
Originally Posted By: CarheeX
Dalglish had been out of work for a decade! Besides, just because he failed it doesn't mean another ex-manager would also fail. Some teams have had more success when a manager has returned than during his first stint.

Hodgson failed and he wasn't an ex LFC manager. Does that mean we shouldn't employ people who haven't worked for Liverpool? You can't just write off a group of people based on the mistakes of one person.

Rafa is our greatest living manager - only 3 years ago he had us ranked as the number one club in the whole world!!!! Not bad considering he had to work under hicks & gillet. Imagine how he'd do with fully supportive bosses?FSG have made an enormous mistake in hiring Rodgson over Benitez. ENORMOUS!





You won't know that for sure, nothing is certain that if Rafa returned he would of picked us back up and returned us to Europe. But I agree and accept your point to a certain extent.


That'll do me!! grin

I'm not saying RB would have us back in the top 4 by summer and another CL final the following May, but I have 100% confidence that he would be doing considerably better than we have done since he left. No doubt about it whatsoever.


What are your thoughts on his last season here and why do you think we failed to impress that year which lead to him no longer being our manager?


There are only 2 possibilities here:

1) After almost winning us the league the season before, he suddenly stopped being a top class manager for no reason whatsoever.

2) The ongoing battles with Hicks & Gillet, and Purslow reached boiling point and finally took their toll.


I'll let you guess which one I believe in....



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of course. but there needs to be some kind of balance there in the number kids we're blooding into the team.

do agree with you though that yesil should have been given a run.

don't know if i'm drawing the wrong conclusions from you though...you don't think we need new strikers in january?

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Originally Posted By: CarheeX
And they won't get any more experience if he doesn't play them! Experience hasn't been an issue all season when the likes of sterling, suso and wisdom have all been getting games.


Is it possible that those 3 players are ready for 1st team football and have taken their chance when presented with it while Yesil and Morgan still need time to develop further?

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Originally Posted By: CarheeX


There are only 2 possibilities here:

1) After almost winning us the league the season before, he suddenly stopped being a top class manager for no reason whatsoever.

2) The ongoing battles with Hicks & Gillet, and Purslow reached boiling point and finally took their toll.


I'll let you guess which one I believe in....




I guess point 1! Am I right? grin

But the second point is my thoughts on it, I definitely believe he didn't become a [oops] manager and was mainly down to those two clowns.

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