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He's covering his ass by distancing himself from the current (poor) squad. I'd do it too.
I am putting a bet on for us to get sinclair on loan in January. It's in the stars boys.
Agree, and I think that's wrong. A manager should put the club above even his own backside. Roy used to talk in a similar fashion. In contrast, Kenny used to back his squad, even the one he inherited, as did Rafa who famously in effect told Gerrard to shut it when Gerrard stated to the press that maybe we couldn't win the CL in Rafa's first season.
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Well, when I started the thread I didn't have transfer tartgets or transfer winodw budgets in mind. Just that we're getting mixed messages in terms our club's intent, ambitions and timeframes for those ambition from the differeing tone and language from different quarters.
Tom Werner:
“Our intention is to strengthen but actions will speak louder than words,” he said. “We are playing better and better each week. Obviously, we have made some mistakes in the past but our intention is to deliver, strengthen the squad and move forward.
“We know that January is a challenging time and I don’t want to say we’ve got x or y but, hopefully, the fans will be pleased with what we do accomplish.”
In contrast, BRs comments produced down beat headlines and write up sin the press. http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1240922/liverpool's-brendan-rodgers-predicts-quiet-january-transfer-window?cc=5739
So which is it?
Personally, I feel BR is playing things down a bit too much. Talk of the squad not being entirely his own, that it will take a few windows/seasons etc. doesn't send the right vibes in my opinion. I prefer the approach where a manager talks up the squad he finds at a club and backs it and the players to be good enough to challenge and win.
For players at a club like ours i think such an approach would boost confidence and the players would also set their sights higher. As things stand some players may think 'we're not doing too bad and if we can get into the top half that'll be great. After all, the boss doesn't think we're capable of getting much higher than that'
He's covering his ass by distancing himself from the current (poor) squad. I'd do it too. I am putting a bet on for us to get sinclair on loan in January. It's in the stars boys. A couple of people on here have said this. I haven't even seen us linked with him anywhere. Where has this idea come from, or have I missed something?
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Well, when I started the thread I didn't have transfer tartgets or transfer winodw budgets in mind. Just that we're getting mixed messages in terms our club's intent, ambitions and timeframes for those ambition from the differeing tone and language from different quarters.
Tom Werner:
“Our intention is to strengthen but actions will speak louder than words,” he said. “We are playing better and better each week. Obviously, we have made some mistakes in the past but our intention is to deliver, strengthen the squad and move forward.
“We know that January is a challenging time and I don’t want to say we’ve got x or y but, hopefully, the fans will be pleased with what we do accomplish.”
In contrast, BRs comments produced down beat headlines and write up sin the press. http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1240922/liverpool's-brendan-rodgers-predicts-quiet-january-transfer-window?cc=5739
So which is it?
Personally, I feel BR is playing things down a bit too much. Talk of the squad not being entirely his own, that it will take a few windows/seasons etc. doesn't send the right vibes in my opinion. I prefer the approach where a manager talks up the squad he finds at a club and backs it and the players to be good enough to challenge and win.
For players at a club like ours i think such an approach would boost confidence and the players would also set their sights higher. As things stand some players may think 'we're not doing too bad and if we can get into the top half that'll be great. After all, the boss doesn't think we're capable of getting much higher than that'
He's covering his ass by distancing himself from the current (poor) squad. I'd do it too. I am putting a bet on for us to get sinclair on loan in January. It's in the stars boys. A couple of people on here have said this. I haven't even seen us linked with him anywhere. Where has this idea come from, or have I missed something? No don't worry mate, nothing missed. Absolutely no evidence or anything like that, just me speculating. He's a decent forward, played under Rodgers, cannot get a game at City since he moved there, we are crying out for wingers who know his system, Rodgers is talking about loan signings as opposed to buying multiple players. Nothing concrete or reason to believe it, just seems like a good fit for all parties to me. Plus I'm probably just hoping his mrs helen flanagan might attend a few of the games. Head full of air but my word what a body.
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LOL  Unreal body! Thick as two short planks, but an unreal body It makes a lot of sense from the points you mentioned. The two things against it in my mind is that they only signed him a few months ago, and would they be willing to let him go out on loan again already?
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LOL Unreal body! Thick as two short planks, but an unreal body It makes a lot of sense from the points you mentioned. The two things against it in my mind is that they only signed him a few months ago, and would they be willing to let him go out on loan again already? Yeah that puts doubt in my mind too but if he isn't getting game time the might prefer him to go out to us, maybe improve him a bit, I know they aren't short of cash but still gets him off the books for a few months. Though tbh I haven't seen a great deal of City, unsure if he gets any game time.
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LOL Unreal body! Thick as two short planks, but an unreal body It makes a lot of sense from the points you mentioned. The two things against it in my mind is that they only signed him a few months ago, and would they be willing to let him go out on loan again already? Yeah that puts doubt in my mind too but if he isn't getting game time the might prefer him to go out to us, maybe improve him a bit, I know they aren't short of cash but still gets him off the books for a few months. Though tbh I haven't seen a great deal of City, unsure if he gets any game time. He's come on as a sub in 2 of their last 9 league games. Once for 1 minute, the other for 15 minutes. He played no parts in the other games. Altogether he's played a total of 148 minutes in the league spread over 5 games, and has played no part in the other 9 games.
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Thats when the window ends. And this thread would make sense. Listen we have no clue whether were getting 1 or 100 million in Jan, regardless of what FSG, Rodgers or the man on the moon says. We'll see in Jan.
And also KopPophet after reading your posts I really think Carheex was correct about you. Do you talk about things or do you just accuse people of sh!t? Because Bar doesn't slag Rafa like yourself and a couple of the grandad's on here doesn't mean he loves him and if he praises him it doesn't mean he loves him. Yourself, Faz and JoeCool are such hypocrites at times and have such double standards its unbelievable. You're a fine one to talk mate - your posts are all over the place - flipflopping from one minute to the next. Then you accuse everyone on the site as being "thick" and say that we should change the name to "Craptalk." Funny that your proposed drop in standards coincided with your emergence on this site. I've no problem with opinions and at least Carheex sticks to his and you know where he stands. You just blow with the wind.... Right first off when did I accuse everyone on the site as being "thick"? If you can quote me saying "Everybody on KopTalk is thick" il gladly delete my account, and if i did im sure alot of others would have jumped on it. Secondly when did i say we should literally change the name to craptalk? When? I suggested that with all the crap talk going on here lately it should be called CrapTalk - A joke that im sure everyone got. And thirdly explain your point = "Funny that your proposed drop in standards coincided with your emergence on this site." Hmmm. Are you twisting my words to support your argument KP?
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Transfer windows are always big not just for buys anymore. Always worried who may leave nowadays. Part of that is down to the modernness of the game and part of it is due to no big ears football but never the less I think it's shot or bust for FSG.
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i haven't read this whole thread, just the author's post. anyway, am i the only one who was NEVER under the impression that the window in january would see us bringing in loads of new players? i thought it was pretty clear for some time that we WOULD be getting some new players but that it would not be a bunch.
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pretty much think the same as you. i'd say we will get 2 (3 tops) irrespective of what is being said in the press or whatever spin being put out by the club
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