Just another rehash thread with the same old handwringing and self pity. Let's see what gives in January then you can all start dooming if it doesn't work out.
Hi KP... what are you going on about? How does a slightly critical interpretation analysis equate to 'self pity' and 'dooming'?
And what's Rafa got to do with any of this? You're not obsessed with Rafa are you

Seriously though, just because some people have doubts about what exactly our ambitions and timescales are, it doesn't mean that they're dooming. It may all work out fine in the end, but it's just unclear at the moment what our plan is.
e.g. when are we expecting to challenge for a top 4 place? If it's not this season, is it next season?
e.g. when do we expect the Anfield refurbishment to be started and completed?
If you know the answers to either of these questions, please do enlighten us.