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I'm afraid to say our club has lost it's way and is still struggling to get back on track.
Even a couple of years after getting rid of H&G, we still find ourselves unsure of the direction we're heading in. The current owners have made a few mistakes and can be forgiven to a certain extent, but even now we're getting mixed messages with Tom Werner recently issuing a statement of intent re: the January transfer window followed by BR now making comments which suggest it's possible that not much will happen in January. Furthermore, he's suggesting it could still take a few transfer windows before he sees things improving significantly.
This reminds me of a few years ago when we used to see stories with Gerrard, Torres etc. being promised that the club would invest in players in order to keep them at the club. We know what happened in the end. Similarly, we know what happened to the plans for a stadium.
Suarez is now in a similar boat to Torres. How many seasons can he waste waiting for the club to invest and prove it's CL and title ambitions? Can he really afford to stick around 2 seasons whilst the club takes the slow, methodical approach to rebuilding - particularly given that there's no guarantee of success anyway?
I'm not suggesting that the owners should splash the cash. But they and the club shouldn't try to fool the fans with bullsh1t statements. The fans are not stupid and deserve a little more respect.
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If I were Suarez I'd leave this Summer, but as a fan I don't want to see our best player leave. FSG won't invest whats needed to get us back up there and Suarez will have the right to move on to get what he deserves which is saddening to say.
And if he continues his current form, there won't be a club that wouldn't be interested in him.
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yeah suarez should leave, can't be the best player in the prem yet play for a side with no ambition. lol, saying that now is hard to believe - we, LFC , have no immediate ambiton to compete..fecking hell
on a side note will be interesting to see how the players vote in the players player of the year..suarez right now is miles ahead of anyone else. say no chance he recieves it, probably get the writers one if his form continues.
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Even a couple of years after getting rid of H&G, we still find ourselves unsure of the direction we're heading in. The current owners have made a few mistakes and can be forgiven to a certain extent, but even now we're getting mixed messages with Tom Werner recently issuing a statement of intent re: the January transfer window followed by BR now making comments which suggest it's possible that not much will happen in January. Furthermore, he's suggesting it could still take a few transfer windows before he sees things improving significantly.
A number of people have mentioned this and come to the same conclusion. For me, it's clear enough: There will be some money to spend. The urgent problem at the moment is the shocking lack of attackers. That has to be addressed as a matter of urgency. I think it will. We may spend £15-20m on one. We may spend £5-10m on one - I don't know. I expect at least 2 players to come in anyway. For BR to get the team he wants we're looking at, what? - Probably a backup keeper to Reina who could be a future #1. Eg: Butland. Could be up to £8-10m? - Carra will be retiring soon, leaving us with Agger, Skrtel and the (so far) unconvincing Coates. He's probably gonna be needing another centre back. £5-10m. - A left back is definitely needed as Enrique and Robinson are our only natural players there. £3-6m? - A DM to ease the burden on Lucas and stop Allen and Gerrard being played there? £10-15m? - An attacking midfielder is definitely required as a spark and a link between midfield and attack. That's probably gonna be another £10-15m. - A winger, £7-12m. - A striker, £7-15m. That's a VERY ROUGH idea of what I imagine BR will require to properly put his mark on the team and make it 'his team'. You're looking at a minimum of £60m there. Is he going to get £60m to spend or is he going to get all of these players in this window? Of course he's not! It'll take at least 2 or 3 windows to get there. Werner can say there'll be money to spend, but it doesn't mean they're going to go nuts and give him a blank chequebook. That's not realistic. Rodgers comments don't make me think there'll be nothing to spend though.
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FSG have some serious decisions to make regarding LFC..in jan 2013 and in the summer. its stick or twist for them very very soon...fans will not take their BS no-more. and their PR cyock sucker ayre telling us fans this n that...his relation with the fans is coming to a end very very soon.
choice for FSG is....
invest in the team ie 20m in jan 2013 and 25m in the summer..or
lower the asking price for the club and sell it to owners who can take is forward on and off the pitch with vision, ideas, investment in the team/squad.
regarding suarez... the owners will have to show if they r going to invest in quality players or not...if not suarez will be off.
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Even a couple of years after getting rid of H&G, we still find ourselves unsure of the direction we're heading in. The current owners have made a few mistakes and can be forgiven to a certain extent, but even now we're getting mixed messages with Tom Werner recently issuing a statement of intent re: the January transfer window followed by BR now making comments which suggest it's possible that not much will happen in January. Furthermore, he's suggesting it could still take a few transfer windows before he sees things improving significantly.
A number of people have mentioned this and come to the same conclusion. For me, it's clear enough: There will be some money to spend. The urgent problem at the moment is the shocking lack of attackers. That has to be addressed as a matter of urgency. I think it will. We may spend £15-20m on one. We may spend £5-10m on one - I don't know. I expect at least 2 players to come in anyway. For BR to get the team he wants we're looking at, what? - Probably a backup keeper to Reina who could be a future #1. Eg: Butland. Could be up to £8-10m? - Carra will be retiring soon, leaving us with Agger, Skrtel and the (so far) unconvincing Coates. He's probably gonna be needing another centre back. £5-10m. - A left back is definitely needed as Enrique and Robinson are our only natural players there. £3-6m? - A DM to ease the burden on Lucas and stop Allen and Gerrard being played there? £10-15m? - An attacking midfielder is definitely required as a spark and a link between midfield and attack. That's probably gonna be another £10-15m. - A winger, £7-12m. - A striker, £7-15m. That's a VERY ROUGH idea of what I imagine BR will require to properly put his mark on the team and make it 'his team'. You're looking at a minimum of £60m there. Is he going to get £60m to spend or is he going to get all of these players in this window? Of course he's not! It'll take at least 2 or 3 windows to get there. Werner can say there'll be money to spend, but it doesn't mean they're going to go nuts and give him a blank chequebook. That's not realistic. Rodgers comments don't make me think there'll be nothing to spend though. then u woke up !!!
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It was only a few months ago that we were told that FSG has 'the money to compete with anyone'.....
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yeah suarez should leave, can't be the best player in the prem yet play for a side with no ambition. lol, saying that now is hard to believe - we, LFC , have no immediate ambiton to compete..fecking hell
on a side note will be interesting to see how the players vote in the players player of the year..suarez right now is miles ahead of anyone else. say no chance he recieves it, probably get the writers one if his form continues. He'd be lucky to even get the writers one. I'm sure he won't get the players one, whether he deserves it or not, since that one's pretty much a popularity contest.
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Even a couple of years after getting rid of H&G, we still find ourselves unsure of the direction we're heading in. The current owners have made a few mistakes and can be forgiven to a certain extent, but even now we're getting mixed messages with Tom Werner recently issuing a statement of intent re: the January transfer window followed by BR now making comments which suggest it's possible that not much will happen in January. Furthermore, he's suggesting it could still take a few transfer windows before he sees things improving significantly.
A number of people have mentioned this and come to the same conclusion. For me, it's clear enough: There will be some money to spend. The urgent problem at the moment is the shocking lack of attackers. That has to be addressed as a matter of urgency. I think it will. We may spend £15-20m on one. We may spend £5-10m on one - I don't know. I expect at least 2 players to come in anyway. For BR to get the team he wants we're looking at, what? - Probably a backup keeper to Reina who could be a future #1. Eg: Butland. Could be up to £8-10m? - Carra will be retiring soon, leaving us with Agger, Skrtel and the (so far) unconvincing Coates. He's probably gonna be needing another centre back. £5-10m. - A left back is definitely needed as Enrique and Robinson are our only natural players there. £3-6m? - A DM to ease the burden on Lucas and stop Allen and Gerrard being played there? £10-15m? - An attacking midfielder is definitely required as a spark and a link between midfield and attack. That's probably gonna be another £10-15m. - A winger, £7-12m. - A striker, £7-15m. That's a VERY ROUGH idea of what I imagine BR will require to properly put his mark on the team and make it 'his team'. You're looking at a minimum of £60m there. Is he going to get £60m to spend or is he going to get all of these players in this window? Of course he's not! It'll take at least 2 or 3 windows to get there. Werner can say there'll be money to spend, but it doesn't mean they're going to go nuts and give him a blank chequebook. That's not realistic. Rodgers comments don't make me think there'll be nothing to spend though. then u woke up !!! ??
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Even a couple of years after getting rid of H&G, we still find ourselves unsure of the direction we're heading in. The current owners have made a few mistakes and can be forgiven to a certain extent, but even now we're getting mixed messages with Tom Werner recently issuing a statement of intent re: the January transfer window followed by BR now making comments which suggest it's possible that not much will happen in January. Furthermore, he's suggesting it could still take a few transfer windows before he sees things improving significantly.
A number of people have mentioned this and come to the same conclusion. For me, it's clear enough: There will be some money to spend. The urgent problem at the moment is the shocking lack of attackers. That has to be addressed as a matter of urgency. I think it will. We may spend £15-20m on one. We may spend £5-10m on one - I don't know. I expect at least 2 players to come in anyway. For BR to get the team he wants we're looking at, what? - Probably a backup keeper to Reina who could be a future #1. Eg: Butland. Could be up to £8-10m? - Carra will be retiring soon, leaving us with Agger, Skrtel and the (so far) unconvincing Coates. He's probably gonna be needing another centre back. £5-10m. - A left back is definitely needed as Enrique and Robinson are our only natural players there. £3-6m? - A DM to ease the burden on Lucas and stop Allen and Gerrard being played there? £10-15m? - An attacking midfielder is definitely required as a spark and a link between midfield and attack. That's probably gonna be another £10-15m. - A winger, £7-12m. - A striker, £7-15m. That's a VERY ROUGH idea of what I imagine BR will require to properly put his mark on the team and make it 'his team'. You're looking at a minimum of £60m there. Is he going to get £60m to spend or is he going to get all of these players in this window? Of course he's not! It'll take at least 2 or 3 windows to get there. Werner can say there'll be money to spend, but it doesn't mean they're going to go nuts and give him a blank chequebook. That's not realistic. Rodgers comments don't make me think there'll be nothing to spend though. I hear what you're saying, but to me it's not just about how much we spend or what we can and can't afford. It's about making statements re: competing. I don't think the squad BR inherited was so bad that it explains languishing in 11th place. And if we haven't got the players for a particular style, and if we think it will take us quite a few windows to get them, shouldn't we being adapting the style to suit the players we have? Surely the point of the exercise is to compete in the league and not simply to waste a season or two whilst a manager builds a team. It's like we're saying that the 2013 and 2014 are training seasons and we might be ready to compete in 2015... but then again, we might not.
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