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rafael, smalling, wellbeck, cleverley, degea, jones, evans ARE youngsters. Need I say more ? yes, they're not our youngsters? Our youngsters are Coates, Wisdom, Flanno, Hendo, Sterling, Suso, Shelvey, Assaidi and Morgan. Wisdom, Sterling, Suso, Assaidi and Shelvey have all shown the hunger to become fixtures in the squad, several of them in the first team. I don't think we have had a striker problem in the league so far, Suarez has been one of the best strikers in the league. If he gets injured then yes, but, we cannot blame a striker problem on our current league position. In any case, BR plays with only 1 striker and it would be difficult to get anybody better than Suarez.
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I never said anything about a striker problem?
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So you feel you are among the few adults here? Adult meaning to agree with what you say. Indeed maybe you should create an adult section and just post that everything is good and we are all very happy as things are. Nobody is forcing you to post here by the way, leave it to the kids. Looks more like a dictator than adult to me. It's got nothing to do with agreeing with me. Far from it. I have my opinions and you and others have yours and I will respect them however stupid I think they are. It has to do with knee jerk fickleness. People starting threads at half time because we're not winning (see Wigan game). It's getting [oops] rediculous. I'm not happy about where we're at but I can see some signs of improvement. If others don't then fine. As for the dictator bit. Wind your [oops] neck in!
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have to disagree with that vish. having only one striker is definitely an issue for us. of course there's no questionning suarez at the moment (i agree with you there). but i can't help but feel that having another striker would give us options.
another striker to play up front and push suarez to the left
or for suarez to play off the other striker
to leave the team as is and come on for suarez
if would also be nice to think that opposing teams would have more than one player to think about when planning to cancel out our goalscoring threat.
you're the first fan i know of that doesn't think we have a striker issue.
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have to disagree with that vish. having only one striker is definitely an issue for us. of course there's no questionning suarez at the moment (i agree with you there). but i can't help but feel that having another striker would give us options.
another striker to play up front and push suarez to the left
or for suarez to play off the other striker
to leave the team as is and come on for suarez
if would also be nice to think that opposing teams would have more than one player to think about when planning to cancel out our goalscoring threat.
you're the first fan i know of that doesn't think we have a striker issue.
You didn't understand me mate, of course i am very unhappy that AC went on loan and was not replaced and I agree with you that BR [oops] up on this as he prefered to let AC go before getting a replacement. What I meant was, not having a striker cannot be used as an excuse by BR as he shipped AC off and in anycase, he would not have played him as AC is not Tiki Taka stuff + Suarez has been very efficient so far in the league.
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did we suffer a heavy defeat? were we massively outplayed or something? NO thought not. There has been some dramatic posts on here lately.
This apart from Allen was the same team as last year when we played Swansea, we lost last season and deservedly so. LFC over the last 3yrs have been losing 1 in 3 LEAGUE games, this season its 1 in 4.3. Which means we are at least stopping the bleeding and starting to recover.
we have no goal scorers apart from Suarez, a fact we have known since the end of August and one that is not going away. So why is everyone bleeting about it? we have to move on. As away performnces go it was decent enough, we had good chances to win it but finishing was poor(again).
At last we are starting to turn round defeats into draws and Victories. 8 game unbeaten is a good start, two clean sheets in a row, things are improving albeit slowly. But it's the frequency of the wins which tells us more: Over the previous 3 season we were winning once every 2.32 games. This season we are winning once every 4.3 games. That's a huge step backwards. In an attempt to be more difficult to beat, we are struggling to win games. The trade-off is counter productive as we are losing more ground than we making up. 1 step forward and 2 steps back. a good point also. The question is whether BR is stopping the rot. The year 2012 from a points perspective is a car crash AND we have shown no sign of improvement until the last 8 games, which is only 8games out of possibly 35 or more. I don't have the numbers too hand but would suspect our last 8games average of 1.75 pts/game is the best block of results for a while. I have said before the improvements are not blatently obvious because if they were Rafa/Roy/Kenny would have solved them. I personally have been viewing this season in 5 game blocks and after the Southampton game would be keen to see if we genuinely are progressing. so far 1st 5 - 0.4pts game 2nd 5 - 1.8pts/game 3rd 5 - 1.66pts game(2 to play) if we are maintain or improve we need at least 4pts from Spurs and Southampton.
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have to disagree with that vish. having only one striker is definitely an issue for us. of course there's no questionning suarez at the moment (i agree with you there). but i can't help but feel that having another striker would give us options.
another striker to play up front and push suarez to the left
or for suarez to play off the other striker
to leave the team as is and come on for suarez
if would also be nice to think that opposing teams would have more than one player to think about when planning to cancel out our goalscoring threat.
you're the first fan i know of that doesn't think we have a striker issue.
You didn't understand me mate, of course i am very unhappy that AC went on loan and was not replaced and I agree with you that BR [oops] up on this as he prefered to let AC go before getting a replacement. What I meant was, not having a striker cannot be used as an excuse by BR as he shipped AC off and in anycase, he would not have played him as AC is not Tiki Taka stuff + Suarez has been very efficient so far in the league. I think you make a really good point vish! The reason we aren't higher up the league isn't because we don't have a striker, that will be the issue if Suarez get's injured, but we have a striker that currently would walk into nearly any team in the world. The first team players we are missing are a quality winger and a quality CAM, that's what we are missing the most. Although the stuff about tiki taka is not to my taste, as anyone who know's what the actual definition of tiki-taka is knows we don't play tiki taka, Rodgers has said we don't more than once, it's just english commentators have bastardised what tiki taka means and attributed it to us. Obviously our depth in the striking position is incredibly poor.
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have to disagree with that vish. having only one striker is definitely an issue for us. of course there's no questionning suarez at the moment (i agree with you there). but i can't help but feel that having another striker would give us options.
another striker to play up front and push suarez to the left
or for suarez to play off the other striker
to leave the team as is and come on for suarez
if would also be nice to think that opposing teams would have more than one player to think about when planning to cancel out our goalscoring threat.
you're the first fan i know of that doesn't think we have a striker issue.
You didn't understand me mate, of course i am very unhappy that AC went on loan and was not replaced and I agree with you that BR [oops] up on this as he prefered to let AC go before getting a replacement. What I meant was, not having a striker cannot be used as an excuse by BR as he shipped AC off and in anycase, he would not have played him as AC is not Tiki Taka stuff + Suarez has been very efficient so far in the league. for the record, i want state clearly that i don't think that letting AC go without getting someone else in was the sole responsibility (i'm sure he had some involvement but ian ayre/fsg need to take the lion's share in that too...they control the money). i don't think that BR has specifically referenced missing AC, it's more been the fact that he's regretted not having secured other strikers (which was not, in fact, his doing at all)
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Not sure Dunk will allow an 'Adult' thread on koptalk.... might be too many incriminating photos! Now that's something I wouldn't want to see (no offence Dunk). I wouldn't mind seeing the old koptalk girls section though.
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please don't swear at people mate
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