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Agreed thats the way it is. Roy did well at WBA and is now doing ok at England, why not get him back in? Or did he not do well enough in his time here? Double standards maybe?
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Your knowledge of how football management, football clubs and everything that influences a football clubs functioning in general, work is obviously not quite as good as you think it is if you honestly believe Rafa destroyed inter.
If you don't honestly belies it, then you are just a troll looking for a reaction. Either way, your opinion will not sway mine. I do however think it is disrespectful to te man to say he destroyed a football club based upon no evidence whatsoever and not taking circumstances into account, also it is quite childish and irresponsible to do so. How? 2 months before Rafa was installed as Inter's manager Jose Mourinho had just won the Champions League, Italian cup and Serie À with an Inter side who looked unbeatable I remember there quarter (maybe semi) final against Barcelona that year they shut up shop and Barca didn't do anything at all. Come forward 5 months and theree 15th in Serie A, out of the Italian cup and out of the Champions League, who's fault was it then? I think you are making this up to strengthen your own argument. They were 6th when he left, 7 points off Milan in first.
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not double standards but higher standards. Roy, although he wasn't given enough time, was a poor manager by Liverpool standards and his style of play was never going to endear him to the fans.
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Agreed but going by their logic with Rafa its the same thing. He had his time and had 1 terrible season in his last Woy had a bad 6 months and he was gone so ya get me point
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Your knowledge of how football management, football clubs and everything that influences a football clubs functioning in general, work is obviously not quite as good as you think it is if you honestly believe Rafa destroyed inter.
If you don't honestly belies it, then you are just a troll looking for a reaction. Either way, your opinion will not sway mine. I do however think it is disrespectful to te man to say he destroyed a football club based upon no evidence whatsoever and not taking circumstances into account, also it is quite childish and irresponsible to do so. If you wanna look at things from that perspective, why not state thy he came to LFC and took a side that hadn't achieved all that much and took them to the final of the CL twice, won it once and got us to 2nd in the PL? It's all about how you twist it. Keep in mind that Rafa took over a side that was aging\old, had to bring in young blood, wasn't backed financially, Massimo Morrati the clubs president was interfering with the teams actually management which was meant to be Rafas job. Under those circumstances it's hard to get results. Don't forget that Rafa also made Valencia a household name, won 2 la liga titles with them, finished as runners up in the champions league twice, losing in a penalty shootout both times might I add, and won the uefa cup. He did this in 5 years, and then proceeded to win the CL with Liverpool. Hardly a bad record or a manager who is out of his depth! One would have to be either blind or stupid to not see that he is a top class expert at football management! How? 2 months before Rafa was installed as Inter's manager Jose Mourinho had just won the Champions League, Italian cup and Serie À with an Inter side who looked unbeatable I remember there quarter (maybe semi) final against Barcelona that year they shut up shop and Barca didn't do anything at all. Come forward 5 months and theree 15th in Serie A, out of the Italian cup and out of the Champions League, who's fault was it then?
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I wouldn't agree that its the same thing. Roy has never won anything with any team in England (that I'm aware of) while Rafa won several competitions with Liverpool
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Computer went all crazy on me during my last post....sorry, here's what it's meant to say...
If you wanna look at things from that perspective, why not state thy he came to LFC and took a side that hadn't achieved all that much and took them to the final of the CL twice, won it once and got us to 2nd in the PL? It's all about how you twist it.
Keep in mind that Rafa took over a side that was aging\old, had to bring in young blood, wasn't backed financially, Massimo Morrati the clubs president was interfering with the teams actual management which was meant to be Rafa's job. Under those circumstances it's hard to get results. Don't forget that Rafa also made Valencia a household name, won 2 la liga titles with them, finished as runners up in the champions league twice, losing in a penalty shootout both times might I add, and won the uefa cup. He did this in 5 years, and then proceeded to win the CL with Liverpool. Hardly a bad record or a manager who is out of his depth!
One would have to be either blind or stupid to not see that he is a top class expert at football management!
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Ive said it before and will say it again. He is the best manager in world football and that as Rafa would say is 'fact' not opinion.
Here is the fact that backs up the claim:
He won a champions League with Djimi Traore.
You cant argue with that lol.
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Agreed but going by their logic with Rafa its the same thing. He had his time and had 1 terrible season in his last Woy had a bad 6 months and he was gone so ya get me point Not really, because Rafa had 1 bad season, perhaps 2, but we were regularly playing in the CL whilst he was our manager, and teams around Europe feared us, whereas now, teams such as Young Boys and Anzhi come to Anfield with real belief that they can get at least a point.... Rafa had us beating Barcelona and Real Madrid in Spain! We were a force to be reckoned with, unfortunately we no longer are.
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Ive said it before and will say it again. He is the best manager in world football and that as Rafa would say is 'fact' not opinion.
Here is the fact that backs up the claim:
He won a champions League with Djimi Traore.
You cant argue with that lol. Brilliant! I really can't argue that point!
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