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Toothy #284632 21/11/12 04:16 PM
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Diving can be moved out of the game if the FA or FIFA wants it out but it seems like they are happy to sit back and just earn their money. A 3 game ban similar to red card should be introduced for those found guilty of blatant diving like Bale's and Ivanovic's dives a few weeks ago where there was no contact at all.


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Originally Posted By: Toothy
And what about the ref? forced to check up on the to55er because of the chance of him dying of a heart attack etc? F=ck them , teach them not to cheat won't it that goal. That is the shame! Not some stupid rule or 'custom', cos remember the rules change and the implementation of rules change; there used to be hardly any diving in the english game and look at it now, players hardly ever get booked for simulation


this goal won't stop anyone diving because I guarantee you won't see another goal like it this season. People won't suddenly think of that Shaktar goal as a deterrant. Only bans and fines by the FA will stop that.

Now tell me again where was the justice?

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Your first sentence doesnt make sense. Whether you see 'another goal' like it or not doesnt change the fact that if the player that cheated didnt cheat the play wouldnt have stopped at that point. The goal wouldnt have happened.

I advise you to go and buy a dictionary if you dont understand the word 'justice' as you can't seem to find it on google

Maxi88 #284636 21/11/12 04:23 PM
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Surely you can see that the player is totally overreacting to the very minimal (at best) contact. Why is he doing that? To get a Shaktar player booked and that, whether you like it or not is cheating. Unfortunately for the player it back fired, the ref had none of it and to make matters worse Shaktar profit directly from the guy cheating. Are you really going to say there's no sense of justice in that?

I'm not arguing that people will remember this and it'll teach people not to dive/pretend to be hurt but in this one instance the player got what he deserved as I bet he feels like a fool now.

You seem to ignore that the first guy was cheating and Adriano's actions were simply unsportsmanlike.. what's worse?

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Originally Posted By: Toothy
Your first sentence doesnt make sense. Whether you see 'another goal' like it or not doesnt change the fact that if the player that cheated didnt cheat the play wouldnt have stopped at that point. The goal wouldnt have happened.

I advise you to go and buy a dictionary if you dont understand the word 'justice' as you can't seem to find it on google



Can you also define exactly where the cheating occurred in the lead up to this goal for me?

You still have yet to show me where the justice was?

Maxi88 #284638 21/11/12 04:27 PM
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simple

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Surely you can see that the player is totally overreacting to the very minimal (at best) contact. Why is he doing that? To get a Shaktar player booked and that, whether you like it or not is cheating. Unfortunately for the player it back fired, the ref had none of it and to make matters worse Shaktar profit directly from the guy cheating. Are you really going to say there's no sense of justice in that?

I'm not arguing that people will remember this and it'll teach people not to dive/pretend to be hurt but in this one instance the player got what he deserved as I bet he feels like a fool now.

You seem to ignore that the first guy was cheating and Adriano's actions were simply unsportsmanlike.. what's worse?


there is absolutely no sense of justice in that situation. Justice would have been at most if the ref felt the player was feigning injury would be to book the player. Justice is not the concession of a goal when everyone has stopped playing as per the norm when the play has been stopped and one team is giving the ball back to another.

Both players are guilty, but Adriano is far worse IMO

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simple


still nothing?

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Can you explain to me why you feel that unsportsmanlike behavior is worse than plain cheating then mate because I'm honestly trying to understand where you're coming from.

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Well tell me where the cheating actually happened? The player ran into the Shaktar players shoulder hitting his face off him, hard enough that the Shaktar player felt the impact of it.

Plain cheating is where a player was not touched or a player holding his head when contact was with the body. This didn't happen here at all.

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