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I read an interesting stat yesterday - over the last 3 seasons we've had 39 league defeats, which is an average of 1 defeat every 3 games. With this in mind, BR has got us 7 games undefeated in the league, which is a good start in bringing stability to the team and building confidence.
That is interesting, I know people say you can prove whatever you want with statistics, but that is positive. Definitely a positive. More for the mentality of the players as anything else. If you get hard to beat as a team you'll get your fair share of wins along with that. Around this time last season (under Kenny) we went 8 games unbeaten - which was the longest unbeaten run in the league we had. The season before, the longest unbeaten run was 6 games (Kenny's first 6 games in charge. The longest unbeaten league run Hodgson managed was 4 games). The season before that (under Rafa), the longest run was 7 games. Currently at 7 unbeaten, we need to try extend that and build on it with a few more wins. Swansea and Spurs will be tough tests.
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I have a horrible feeling we will lose to swansea, because that would be typical of us and they've beaten us once (allbeit not our strongest team I think), and I think we rarely win those former manager, or managers former team type situations. Think we have a really good shot at beating spurs though as they won't have adeybayor
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I have a horrible feeling we will lose to swansea, because that would be typical of us and they've beaten us once (allbeit not our strongest team I think), and I think we rarely win those former manager, or managers former team type situations. Think we have a really good shot at beating spurs though as they won't have adeybayor Yeah, I know. You could look at it from another angle though and say that our record in that sort of match - and also against Swansea in particular - is due a change. I think realistically, a draw would be a decent result. A win would be a great result. Swansea have started the season really well, but for all of that, and for all of the praise they've had, they're just 1 place and 1 point ahead of us. There's been a lot of doom and gloom (I hate to use that clichéd term but..) on here in recent weeks about how bad we're doing this season and how Rodgers may not be the answer. We've lost as many league games this season as Manchester United have (3). Only Man City (0), Chelsea, (2) and Everton (2) have lost less games than us. That is a massively positive stat. Manchester United have drawn 0 games, and we've drawn way too many (6), and there lies the massive difference. I think we're not as far away as some people realise. As I said before, we've started turning the defeats into draws. We just need to turn the draws into wins, and we'll continue to climb. The margins aren't as great as the league table indicates.
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I have a horrible feeling we will lose to swansea, because that would be typical of us and they've beaten us once (allbeit not our strongest team I think), and I think we rarely win those former manager, or managers former team type situations. Think we have a really good shot at beating spurs though as they won't have adeybayor Yeah, I know. You could look at it from another angle though and say that our record in that sort of match - and also against Swansea in particular - is due a change. I think realistically, a draw would be a decent result. A win would be a great result. Swansea have started the season really well, but for all of that, and for all of the praise they've had, they're just 1 place and 1 point ahead of us. There's been a lot of doom and gloom (I hate to use that clichéd term but..) on here in recent weeks about how bad we're doing this season and how Rodgers may not be the answer. We've lost as many league games this season as Manchester United have (3). Only Man City (0), Chelsea, (2) and Everton (2) have lost less games than us. That is a massively positive stat. Manchester United have drawn 0 games, and we've drawn way too many (6), and there lies the massive difference. I think we're not as far away as some people realise. As I said before, we've started turning the defeats into draws. We just need to turn the draws into wins, and we'll continue to climb. The margins aren't as great as the league table indicates. Yeah I'd agree, but at the same time, while those margins to make the jump to 4th might be only say 2 players, I think unless we unearth gems which we aren't really very good at, they will cost 20 mill+ a piece. We only have one match winner now who can be counted on regularly. But yes now we have turned those defeats into draws, 1 goal makes the difference, with just 2 more 'match winners' we could be racking up points quickly. Fear we may have to wait till the summer for another one though. We are at an interesting point (aren't we always), we are about the same no. of points off top 4 and bottom 3 (I think, can't be bothered to check), a win against swansea and things look great and exciting, a loss and we go back to a forum full of 'doom and gloom'. As you say, such fine lines and narrow margins.
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Yes bar i do agree, didnt realise we have only lost 3, seems much more from our league position and all the negativity.
i do think we are slowly turning the chapter, physiologically the Liverpool soap opera may have been a bit of a distraction, also the younger players are bedding in, you can see Sterling is really turning the swag on and he is building a good relationship with Suarez.
i am much happier with our position (in terms or points from 5th) AT THE MOMENT!! and we are not that far away, hopefully these FSG Bozo's will see that and give us the funds to make a good go at 4th place. i think 2-3 players will be enough to do that.
COME ON YOU REDS !!!
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I think if we can clear out the likes of Cole and Downing to give us a few dollars and add that to our transfer kitty (whatever that may be) we can pick up a couple of decent players to add some experience and quality to our squad we can push for top 6 and possibly snatch 4th. Let's just hope they do offer a cash injection as Rodgers has said there will be funds available in January to strengthen our striking options.
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I have a horrible feeling we will lose to swansea, because that would be typical of us and they've beaten us once (allbeit not our strongest team I think), and I think we rarely win those former manager, or managers former team type situations. Think we have a really good shot at beating spurs though as they won't have adeybayor Yeah, I know. You could look at it from another angle though and say that our record in that sort of match - and also against Swansea in particular - is due a change. I think realistically, a draw would be a decent result. A win would be a great result. Swansea have started the season really well, but for all of that, and for all of the praise they've had, they're just 1 place and 1 point ahead of us. There's been a lot of doom and gloom (I hate to use that clichéd term but..) on here in recent weeks about how bad we're doing this season and how Rodgers may not be the answer. We've lost as many league games this season as Manchester United have (3). Only Man City (0), Chelsea, (2) and Everton (2) have lost less games than us. That is a massively positive stat. Manchester United have drawn 0 games, and we've drawn way too many (6), and there lies the massive difference. I think we're not as far away as some people realise. As I said before, we've started turning the defeats into draws. We just need to turn the draws into wins, and we'll continue to climb. The margins aren't as great as the league table indicates. Yeah I'd agree, but at the same time, while those margins to make the jump to 4th might be only say 2 players, I think unless we unearth gems which we aren't really very good at, they will cost 20 mill+ a piece. We only have one match winner now who can be counted on regularly. But yes now we have turned those defeats into draws, 1 goal makes the difference, with just 2 more 'match winners' we could be racking up points quickly. Fear we may have to wait till the summer for another one though. We are at an interesting point (aren't we always), we are about the same no. of points off top 4 and bottom 3 (I think, can't be bothered to check), a win against swansea and things look great and exciting, a loss and we go back to a forum full of 'doom and gloom'. As you say, such fine lines and narrow margins. As I've just said in another thread, I think we're gonna see some gambles in the transfer market in January. We don't have the funds or CL to pull in the top stars, but we're gonna need some quality signings, so it's likely that some risks are going to be taken. I saw that you weren't exactly happy (understatement!) about the Sturridge link. I'm kind of on the fence with regards to him. He may very well be one of those risks though. This club has had enough expensive flops in recent years. We can't afford many more, especially if we want to make progress on and off the pitch. The decisions BR makes in January could be vital and could have massive sway over his LFC future, even this early.
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I have a horrible feeling we will lose to swansea, because that would be typical of us and they've beaten us once (allbeit not our strongest team I think), and I think we rarely win those former manager, or managers former team type situations. Think we have a really good shot at beating spurs though as they won't have adeybayor Yeah, I know. You could look at it from another angle though and say that our record in that sort of match - and also against Swansea in particular - is due a change. I think realistically, a draw would be a decent result. A win would be a great result. Swansea have started the season really well, but for all of that, and for all of the praise they've had, they're just 1 place and 1 point ahead of us. There's been a lot of doom and gloom (I hate to use that clichéd term but..) on here in recent weeks about how bad we're doing this season and how Rodgers may not be the answer. We've lost as many league games this season as Manchester United have (3). Only Man City (0), Chelsea, (2) and Everton (2) have lost less games than us. That is a massively positive stat. Manchester United have drawn 0 games, and we've drawn way too many (6), and there lies the massive difference. I think we're not as far away as some people realise. As I said before, we've started turning the defeats into draws. We just need to turn the draws into wins, and we'll continue to climb. The margins aren't as great as the league table indicates. Yeah I'd agree, but at the same time, while those margins to make the jump to 4th might be only say 2 players, I think unless we unearth gems which we aren't really very good at, they will cost 20 mill+ a piece. We only have one match winner now who can be counted on regularly. But yes now we have turned those defeats into draws, 1 goal makes the difference, with just 2 more 'match winners' we could be racking up points quickly. Fear we may have to wait till the summer for another one though. We are at an interesting point (aren't we always), we are about the same no. of points off top 4 and bottom 3 (I think, can't be bothered to check), a win against swansea and things look great and exciting, a loss and we go back to a forum full of 'doom and gloom'. As you say, such fine lines and narrow margins. As I've just said in another thread, I think we're gonna see some gambles in the transfer market in January. We don't have the funds or CL to pull in the top stars, but we're gonna need some quality signings, so it's likely that some risks are going to be taken. I saw that you weren't exactly happy (understatement!) about the Sturridge link. I'm kind of on the fence with regards to him. He may very well be one of those risks though. This club has had enough expensive flops in recent years. We can't afford many more, especially if we want to make progress on and off the pitch. The decisions BR makes in January could be vital and could have massive sway over his LFC future, even this early. Haha yeah I went a little overboard cause Sturridge is actually a decent player who would improve our squad, but we are paying double what he's worth again (apparently) that's what upsets me the most. I would be much happier with sturridge than borini as our gamble punt, but then we shouldn't have bought borini with that 11 million. It just seems we are making it harder for ourselves with these transfers.
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