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The Red Sox are last in there regional division and currently lye in 24th position out of 30 teams. Can see a trend here http://espn.go.com/mlb/standingshttp://espn.go.com/mlb/standings/_/group/9I am seriously concerned about these people, where is all the proof of winning etc etc.
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The season is over but when FSG came in, the Red Sox hadn't won the World Series in 80+ years and were always playing second fiddle to the Yankees. They turned them around and have won 2 World Series since 2003. They also revamped Fenway Park but that drove up ticket prices I think. The Red Sox also now have one of the highest payrolls in baseball although that might have changed after they traded some of their underperforming high earners.
This is the 2nd season in a row where the Red Sox didn't make the play offs and people are concerned about that which is quite a turnaround from where they were 15 years ago competing in the same division as perennial powerhouses, the Yankees. Even at that, they should have made the playoffs in the 2011 season but for a monumental collapse in September.
Basically, FSG do have a track record of success just not necessarily in football
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I really could not care less about baseball, to be perfectly frank!
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Don't really see how it has any relevance to FSG with Liverpool, seem to be clutching at straws there mate
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Ok let me put it to you like this, if you worked for an employer that had several other businesses and all of them where under performing and your company was doing very badly, would you not be concerned??
What they do in there other businesses will have an impact on us some were down the line. Just like when they acquired us, it was because of winning with the Red Sox.
To me they have a money problem big time, and that spells disaster for us!!
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Ok let me put it to you like this, if you worked for an employer that had several other businesses and all of them where under performing and your company was doing very badly, would you not be concerned??
What they do in there other businesses will have an impact on us some were down the line. Just like when they acquired us, it was because of winning with the Red Sox.
To me they have a money problem big time, and that spells disaster for us!!
where does it say that they have money problems? They don't have unlimited reserves or anything like that but they were able to rebuild Fenway and increase the payroll of the Red Sox? I genuinely don't understand what your point is?
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Ok well if you can't read in between the lines then I can't explain it further, I hope I'm wrong believe, but I have an uncomfortable feeling about these guys.
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I don't trust them but the performance of the Red Sox has nothing to do with it? They have had a very poor season but that is not down to lack of investment. They also fell further behind because they realised before the trade deadline that they would not make the playoffs so they took the oppurtunity, as is fairly common in American sports and particularly baseball, to trade some of their higher earners off and open up salary cap room.
You have not given any lines to read between other than posting the league standings. I have explained in a small amount of detail what went wrong for them. I also don't trust them but that doesn't come from their handling of the Red Sox which has generally been top notch. It comes from their inactivity in the last transfer window and the slow pace with which any development is happening with Anfield
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Maxi excellent post and saved me from having to post a reply explaining it to him so thank you!
On the 'don't trust them' remark coming from some people. What is it you don't trust?
I trust them to give the manager round about 20 million investment every year, I trust they will push commercial activity and redevelop anfield to be more modern.
The only thing I don't trust is their party line of we will take Liverpool back to the top. Of course they won't. Unless they are willing to spend 50 mill every season for the next 5, and that is investment not player sales of course we aren't gonna be winning any league titles. Also, are any of you really expecting them to develop anfield to be as good as the Emirates or Old Traford, that is just not going to happen, it cannot happen. We don't have the money. And it will be a redevelopment job, which means we won't see the benefits of a brand new stadium (though will save a lot of cash), it will be good though, they redid the red sox stadium quite impressively.
I don't know what it is you guys don't trust? If it's that they won't take us to the top again or make anfield the greatest stadium in england, then that is obvious. Why did you think they would? The ONLY people who can do that are those willing to invest wayyyyyy more money than they have to play with. We are too far behind. No way of catching the big teams with 20 mill a season.
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quote=mybloodisred]Maxi excellent post and saved me from having to post a reply explaining it to him so thank you!
On the 'don't trust them' remark coming from some people. What is it you don't trust?
I trust them to give the manager round about 20 million investment every year, I trust they will push commercial activity and redevelop anfield to be more modern.
The only thing I don't trust is their party line of we will take Liverpool back to the top. Of course they won't. Unless they are willing to spend 50 mill every season for the next 5, and that is investment not player sales of course we aren't gonna be winning any league titles. Also, are any of you really expecting them to develop anfield to be as good as the Emirates or Old Traford, that is just not going to happen, it cannot happen. We don't have the money. And it will be a redevelopment job, which means we won't see the benefits of a brand new stadium (though will save a lot of cash), it will be good though, they redid the red sox stadium quite impressively.
I don't know what it is you guys don't trust? If it's that they won't take us to the top again or make anfield the greatest stadium in england, then that is obvious. Why did you think they would? The ONLY people who can do that are those willing to invest wayyyyyy more money than they have to play with. We are too far behind. No way of catching the big teams with 20 mill a season. I almost made the mistake of replying before reading it all after I saw "I trust them to give the manager round about 20 million investment every year"  I agree with you mate, that FSG with what we have seen will not invest the amount needed to get us up there to be in with a chance of challenging for the title, will will need to spend a lot more than we are. Even the 100M that daglish wasted, the majority was from player sales and not invesnt from them. I don't see them investing more annor do I see them selling any time soon.
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