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Originally Posted By: cp1972
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Originally Posted By: cp1972
some great posts Faz and probably not too far off your assesment on the squads. I think you are being a little harsh on the Liverpool squad though. Suarez, Agger, Johnson, Lucas, Sktrtel, Allen, Gerrard, Sahin and maybe Reina are still far better than what either Everton or Newcastle has. Only Felliani, Baines, Toite and Cabaye stand out as players you would really like.

The problem as pointed out is the gap then to our young players who are very talented but woefully inexperienced. 6th best squad is about right. Doen't mean you are wrong as only at the end of the season we will find out.


Player quality is far too objective and there are too many variables to say who has the best squad. The manager must also be classed as part of the squad. So the only fair way to is look at the league table - we currently have the 12th best squad in the premier league. There is no other way to assess it (unless you're one of the conspiracy theorists who think it is only the refs who are preventing us from topping the table!!!)



i would like to think we all agree that 10games is no time to be assessing the squad or manager. I like what we are trying to do and as mentioned by many without significant investment you cannot just jump 3/4 places in one season - effectively finding 15-20points.
last nights footy did show that that a sound youth policy and football philosophy enables a team to compete without spending 100s millions - dortmund, Schalke and Ajax being the examples


Agree you cannot assess a manager over 10 games, you can see a trend but not enough to make up your mind, at least 1/2 a season is required and one whole season gives you a good enough picture to compare with other seasons (you would have played all the teams both away and at home as opposed to looking only 1/2 a season). However, I think you can assess your playing squad at the start of the season if you have watched the players play before, ie, are not playing for the first time, this is why the bookies/pundits will have an idea of who would be among the favourites to be in the top 4 at least (even with a new manager or new players). We've played more than 15 competitive games, that would be enough to judge the squad, IMO.

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We would not have lost tonight of Rafa was in charge, Bucks stats are getting worse game by game.

It truly is time to sack his a$$, its only going to get worse!

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Originally Posted By: johnnydramax
We would not have lost tonight of Rafa was in charge, Bucks stats are getting worse game by game.

It truly is time to sack his a$$, its only going to get worse!


You seem obsessed with Brendan's ass

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He's out of his depth, if we are a club with any ambition of retuning to top 4 and top tier European competition, let alone mounting a league title challenge

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I just had a mug of tea and a lovely custard slice.

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Originally Posted By: johnnydramax
He's out of his depth, if we are a club with any ambition of retuning to top 4 and top tier European competition, let alone mounting a league title challenge
no manager is going to get us into the top four, lets be real here...

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If that's the attitude we may as well just quit.

Why accept mediocrity????????????

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Originally Posted By: joecool
Originally Posted By: johnnydramax
He's out of his depth, if we are a club with any ambition of retuning to top 4 and top tier European competition, let alone mounting a league title challenge
no manager is going to get us into the top four, lets be real here...


Wenger, Mourinho and a few others might disagree with you there.


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this thread needs to do a carra and retire


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Originally Posted By: johnnydramax
We would not have lost tonight of Rafa was in charge, Bucks stats are getting worse game by game.

It truly is time to sack his a$$, its only going to get worse!


good to see you back on. I'd like to see where it is written that Rafa would have won last night?

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