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Originally Posted By: fazakerley red 1
liverpool are not the 6th best squad


Doesnt work like that,Chelsea last year had a stronger squad then Arsenal and Man u but finished behind them by some distance,but both Arsenal and Man u had BETTER managers,do you see were the problem lies?

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Originally Posted By: fazakerley red 1
liverpool are not the 6th best squad


Doesnt work like that,Chelsea last year had a stronger squad then Arsenal and Man u but finished behind them by some distance,but both Arsenal and Man u had BETTER managers,do you see were the problem lies?


Exactly, squad is one thing and depending on the manager the squad either over-performs or under. I really believe that we've got the 6th best squad +-1. What do you think?

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Originally Posted By: vish mauritius
So Faz, what are LFC in terms of squad according to you, 16th? Are you telling me you have no idea?
around were they finished 8th or 9th best squad , defiantly behind spurs , everton and newcastle , then its a toss up between liverpool and fulham and swansea , just let me know how you can justify saying liverpool are the sixth best squad , the squad has been in decline since 09 , then dalglish thought the squad was so great he thought he would spend over 100 million on it , that made it worse through his bad buys and rodgers hasn't had that sort of money benitez and dalglish got , to strengthen the squad , now rodgers hasn't done everything right IE the weak teams in the cups , but until massive investment is put into the squad and not wasted ,like what dalglish and comolli did then it will improve up the league to the top 6 in the future , but it wont happen in 4 months or 5 months or 6 months , the team has young promising kids and some ageing players so its not going to be great every week until the kids get more experienced and grow a bit its going to be patchy .

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Originally Posted By: vish mauritius
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Originally Posted By: fazakerley red 1
liverpool are not the 6th best squad


Doesnt work like that,Chelsea last year had a stronger squad then Arsenal and Man u but finished behind them by some distance,but both Arsenal and Man u had BETTER managers,do you see were the problem lies?


Exactly, squad is one thing and depending on the manager the squad either over-performs or under. I really believe that we've got the 6th best squad +-1. What do you think?


I think Rodders has come to a club with low morale and a lack of winning mentality.He should of tried grinding out some wins first then try to incorporate this system thing everyone is talking about.Answering your question,I think the squad is a lot stronger then the league is showing,no doubt about it.

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According to me the Chelsea, City, United have definitely better squads than us, Arsenal are weaker than last year after losing RVP but are still better than us, then Spurs though they also are weaker than last year after losing one of their best players Modric. Newcastle and Everton are not better than us may be at par, this is how I get to 6 +-1. The others you mention like Swansea, Fulham are not better.

Now if you do think we have the 8-9th best squad, this would mean that we had an even worse squad last year as we had more dross (some have been sold/left) and we have spent 30m to improve, simple logic. This would mean that KD over achieved which I don't agree. I think we underacheived in the league as we had a better squad than our 8th position, unless of course you think that KD over achieved. Which is which?

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Originally Posted By: vish mauritius
According to me the Chelsea, City, United have definitely better squads than us, Arsenal are weaker than last year after losing RVP but are still better than us, then Spurs though they also are weaker than last year after losing one of their best players Modric. Newcastle and Everton are not better than us may be at par, this is how I get to 6 +-1. The others you mention like Swansea, Fulham are not better.

Now if you do think we have the 8-9th best squad, this would mean that we had an even worse squad last year as we had more dross (some have been sold/left) and we have spent 30m to improve, simple logic. This would mean that KD over achieved which I don't agree. I think we underacheived in the league as we had a better squad than our 8th position, unless of course you think that KD over achieved. Which is which?
i honestly dont know how you say we on par with newcastle and everton squad wise , everton are sadly miles better than liverpool and newcastle ok didnt play great last sunday have a better squad , , liverpool did spend 30 million but got rid of players who would play bellamy and kuyt , and have had to play young inexperienced kids to bolster the squad ,one striker no subs to speak of to come in unless you rate downing , carragher and henderson , the squad is worse than last season because of the waste of dalglish , i really like joe allen possibly over paid for him ok borini hasnt settled yet and sadly got injured , the squad need 5 or 6 players to get it up to everton or spurs 's level , now you have this thing about the squad being good so expect better results , ok maybe 4 points of what they should be but the performances are exactly what you get from a mid table team with young kids learning in it , good , bad and indifferent , as i said rodgers hasnt all been good IE his playing of weak teams in the cups , but he is trying to play football , he has tried to bring the kids in the squad one thing dalglish or benitez would never do , dalglish would have kept charlie adam and kept playing downing instead of sterling .

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Great post faz

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What are you all talking about, man have standards fallen!

Your arguing about if we are good enough for 6th or 16th....anything other than 4th minimum is a joke and failure!


We are Liverpool FC! We demand excellence, entertaining mediocrity and praising a finish outside the top 4 is just damaging.

BR is not going to deliver this and its time to move him on!

FSG have already screwed up 2 appointments! And shocking they did not go back for Rafa, and yes before you say he failed top 4 twice, in 1 he delivered the Champions League and the 2nd the whole club and ownership was the worst in its history!

Time to get real, time to get Rafa back!

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Originally Posted By: johnnydramax
What are you all talking about, man have standards fallen!

Your arguing about if we are good enough for 6th or 16th....anything other than 4th minimum is a joke and failure!


We are Liverpool FC! We demand excellence, entertaining mediocrity and praising a finish outside the top 4 is just damaging.

BR is not going to deliver this and its time to move him on!

FSG have already screwed up 2 appointments! And shocking they did not go back for Rafa, and yes before you say he failed top 4 twice, in 1 he delivered the Champions League and the 2nd the whole club and ownership was the worst in its history!

Time to get real, time to get Rafa back!
7th under benitez and that is fact .

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