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I have never forgiven Rafa for that crazy facts speech whatever was he up to? We would have won the league that year had he not opened his mouth Wow we were in a position to be challenging for the league title????that must of been a strange feeling,did it involve winning more then 2 games in the first quarter of the season?Did the manager get a Porsche and a TV show for his efforts? 10 points clear of united until benitez gave the best man utd teamtalk ever . no chance of rogers giving a terrible talk while 10 points clear of man united well yes your right at the moment but with the dross benitez left dalglish then the even bigger dross dalglish left , what do you expect ?
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fact yes and massive credit , but does that make him whiter than white ???? or immune ??? if it's white, and in a bottle... it's milk isn't it?  On a serious note, of course he's not whiter than white or immune from criticism. I think he frustrated most of us much of the time. But we cn't argue with the results. We used to compete with the big teams all the time. We were involved in big games right up to April/May every season it seems. Yes, it took him a while to understand the league. But he showed that he was capabale of producing a challenge. He deserves a lot more respect than he gets, not least from the British press - but Rafa's a foreigner so he can't expect that. You would've though the fans would have more respect but some people treat him as if he committed a crime forgetting where we were before he came and where we have been since he left. I'm not one advocating his return now though. BRs needs to be given more time, but he also can't hide behind not having the players to suit his system. The squad we have isn't as bad as some would have us believe i think.
'I was only in the game for the love of football - and I wanted to bring back happiness to the people of Liverpool.' Bill Shankly
'We should have made a signing or two in the last couple of transfer windows.' Vish
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yes and massive credit , but does that make him whiter than white ???? or immune ???
Absolutely not, but it does entitle him to some respect, even if begrudged.
I fully support BR but I also have a lot of time for rafa, that doesn't mean I want him back.
I think we are arguing over the wrong topic.
BR will only succeed if he gets support from the owners and so far they have had a very easy ride on here.
Apart fom Lain, Stan and yourself their lack of suppport is rarely questioned. I still struggle to get my head around the fact that we are owned by a man whos first love is baseball.
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Wrong his first love is MONEY
IF YOU WANT TO BE HEARD SPEAK SOFTLY - BOB PAISLEY
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You are spot on Stan, I stand corrected. 
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yes and massive credit , but does that make him whiter than white ???? or immune ???
Absolutely not, but it does entitle him to some respect, even if begrudged.
I fully support BR but I also have a lot of time for rafa, that doesn't mean I want him back.
I think we are arguing over the wrong topic.
BR will only succeed if he gets support from the owners and so far they have had a very easy ride on here.
Apart fom Lain, Stan and yourself their lack of suppport is rarely questioned. I still struggle to get my head around the fact that we are owned by a man whos first love is baseball. I think the owners have mad many mistakes, but after the amount they alllowed Kenny and Comolli to spend and waste, I don't think we can criticise them too much for being cautious in the first few months of BRs tenure. Even so, we spent £15 million and £10 million on Allen and Borini in one window. That's not too bad.
'I was only in the game for the love of football - and I wanted to bring back happiness to the people of Liverpool.' Bill Shankly
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I don't think we can blame the owners for being somewhat cautious after all the past sagas, but we have seen they too have had a few clangers. We can only hope they learn quickly and don't make any more because if they do id expect them to put it right,with money if needs be,the hardest thing to get right is the timing of these decisions they have to see them and act immediatly.They may have blamed kenny for the clangers with the failed signings but it was them who sanctioned it in the first place.Now that has happened they have to see if they themselves make that mistake at the beginning of the process it is they that have to correct it in the end.....with money, but will they? 
Life is beautiful when you find Love when you find the place your meant to be when you find the one to give your heart to as for me this is you this is Love
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yes and massive credit , but does that make him whiter than white ???? or immune ???
Absolutely not, but it does entitle him to some respect, even if begrudged.
I fully support BR but I also have a lot of time for rafa, that doesn't mean I want him back.
I think we are arguing over the wrong topic.
BR will only succeed if he gets support from the owners and so far they have had a very easy ride on here.
Apart fom Lain, Stan and yourself their lack of suppport is rarely questioned. I still struggle to get my head around the fact that we are owned by a man whos first love is baseball. I think the owners have mad many mistakes, but after the amount they alllowed Kenny and Comolli to spend and waste, I don't think we can criticise them too much for being cautious in the first few months of BRs tenure. Even so, we spent £15 million and £10 million on Allen and Borini in one window. That's not too bad. Lol Similar view to you Mighty so Ditto! 
Life is beautiful when you find Love when you find the place your meant to be when you find the one to give your heart to as for me this is you this is Love
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Faz, you keep talking about the dross as if we have a relegation zone squad. From what I have seen so far, both RB and KD performed much better with the dross. If it's not the dross then it is the new philosophy, i know. Definitely, BR talks well (and has convinced some with speeches only) and hopefully results will show that he walks the talk, rather sooner than later.
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Faz, you keep talking about the dross as if we have a relegation zone squad. From what I have seen so far, both RB and KD performed much better with the dross. If it's not the dross then it is the new philosophy, i know. Definitely, BR talks well (and has convinced some with speeches only) and hopefully results will show that he walks the talk, rather sooner than later. vish my mate gradual decline , dalglish spent over 100 million on the squad and and it rubbish , if you think downing , henderson , adam etc from dalglish and the likes of aquilani voronin , nogo from the benitez latter years were good enough well ok , but i dont think you do , but what alarms me is you have not once given rodgers any sort of a chance not since day one and mate thats not right , ok at the end of benitez's reign i dont like him , but his first two seasons were great and even after burnley benitez deserved a chance when loads wanted him out .
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