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#280433 06/11/12 03:09 AM
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The goal by suarez against barcodes got me thinking:

Would we have been higher up the table had carroll stayed at anfield and BR had tried to complement him into his system?

My head says yes. I see nothing perfectly wrong with his so-called 'tiki-taka' passing with the option of putting balls in the box. Andy's presence will be more of a menace than anything else with his knock-offs or direct shots.

At the moment, we're over-relying on suarez and if he goes out injured, God help us.

mightyreds #280434 06/11/12 04:07 AM
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Carroll's time here showed that he is unable to play in any system nevermind what Rodgers is trying to do, he scored 3 or 4 goals all season. We should accept the 17m from Westham and forget that we ever brought Carroll.


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Snakeye #280438 06/11/12 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted By: Snakeye
Carroll's time here showed that he is unable to play in any system nevermind what Rodgers is trying to do, he scored 3 or 4 goals all season. We should accept the 17m from Westham and forget that we ever brought Carroll.


I actually liked the lad but couldnt agree more with this. His time with us is done.

DrJules #280442 06/11/12 07:18 AM
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So if Carroll's time with us is done, then what kind of strikers are we looking for? Someone with pace like walcott?

I just find it strange that we are restricting ourselves to having the ball on the ground and on many occasions, when we run out of options, our wingers will send aerial balls in only to find nobody in the box capable of challenging the center-backs to attack the ball.

I suspect BR's system will work but we will need very, very technical players like messi, iniesta and xavi to knock the ball around. But how many of these players are available and can we even afford to buy their leg hairs?

Until then, we really need results to move up the table instead of fancy passing. How I miss the days where we ground out 1-0 wins week in and week out. Just compact, solid and unbeatable football. Gone were the days where teams could hardly have a sniff at our goal especially at anfield.

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Originally Posted By: mightyreds
So if Carroll's time with us is done, then what kind of strikers are we looking for? Someone with pace like walcott?

I just find it strange that we are restricting ourselves to having the ball on the ground and on many occasions, when we run out of options, our wingers will send aerial balls in only to find nobody in the box capable of challenging the center-backs to attack the ball.

I suspect BR's system will work but we will need very, very technical players like messi, iniesta and xavi to knock the ball around. But how many of these players are available and can we even afford to buy their leg hairs?

Until then, we really need results to move up the table instead of fancy passing. How I miss the days where we ground out 1-0 wins week in and week out. Just compact, solid and unbeatable football. Gone were the days where teams could hardly have a sniff at our goal especially at anfield.



worked with Dalglish and Rush.never played high balls. Remember also Andy Carroll has scored how many goals for West Ham?

mightyreds #280467 06/11/12 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted By: mightyreds
So if Carroll's time with us is done, then what kind of strikers are we looking for? Someone with pace like walcott?

I just find it strange that we are restricting ourselves to having the ball on the ground and on many occasions, when we run out of options, our wingers will send aerial balls in only to find nobody in the box capable of challenging the center-backs to attack the ball.

I suspect BR's system will work but we will need very, very technical players like messi, iniesta and xavi to knock the ball around. But how many of these players are available and can we even afford to buy their leg hairs?

Until then, we really need results to move up the table instead of fancy passing. How I miss the days where we ground out 1-0 wins week in and week out. Just compact, solid and unbeatable football. Gone were the days where teams could hardly have a sniff at our goal especially at anfield.


If BR's 'philosophy' depends on very technical players then he must coach people into that role. Isn't that part of his job description?

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if it is true that spaniards have hairier legs , thats why we can't afford them

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Originally Posted By: CarheeX
Originally Posted By: mightyreds
So if Carroll's time with us is done, then what kind of strikers are we looking for? Someone with pace like walcott?

I just find it strange that we are restricting ourselves to having the ball on the ground and on many occasions, when we run out of options, our wingers will send aerial balls in only to find nobody in the box capable of challenging the center-backs to attack the ball.

I suspect BR's system will work but we will need very, very technical players like messi, iniesta and xavi to knock the ball around. But how many of these players are available and can we even afford to buy their leg hairs?

Until then, we really need results to move up the table instead of fancy passing. How I miss the days where we ground out 1-0 wins week in and week out. Just compact, solid and unbeatable football. Gone were the days where teams could hardly have a sniff at our goal especially at anfield.


If BR's 'philosophy' depends on very technical players then he must coach people into that role. Isn't that part of his job description?

yeah in theory, CarheX, but silk purses from sows ears 'comes dropping slow' and where will we be in the meantime? If FSG want this style of football they need to open their purse strings. ut the fools the fools they thought all they had to do was sack and appoint at management level and hey presto we're playing tiki-taka, make a cat laugh if it wasn't so damned tragic.

Hercules/AF 58 #280477 06/11/12 11:47 AM
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No one asked for this 'tiki-taka'. It was BRs supposed masterplan. If you're coming to a cash strapped club like liverpool with a plan that requires the best players in the world in order to succeed, then you'd better be able to develop them using your coaching skills because the money isn't there and neither is our ability to attract the required type.

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FSG seemed to buy into it as I'm sure he would have made his ideas very clear before they offered him the job. Therefore someone should have been advising them on what would be needed to implement it

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