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I feel br has done a fine job so far....but I too am [oops] off with hhhooooowwwww sssslllloooowwwww our attacking play is. We give teams too much time to regroup and defend....I feel bucks honeymoon period is over
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I feel br has done a fine job so far....but I too am [oops] off with hhhooooowwwww sssslllloooowwwww our attacking play is. We give teams too much time to regroup and defend....I feel bucks honeymoon period is over Sorry mate, what fine job has he done so far? Introduced young players? Kelly, Shelvey, Spearing were playing regularly last season, Coates has a few games and Robinson and Sterling were training with the first team and even had a few games under Kenny, they were just too young to start regularly. Ok, now we are having high possession, so what, we are 14th (if KD had the same performance after taking over from Roy we could have been relegated) out of the league cup, conceeding a lot of goals and have not sorted out our striker problem. So really I can't see the good work so far, i just hope it gets better starting in the week-end.
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Im curious what rodders brief was for the season?Top 15 ? Thursday cup? the clubs prestige of former glories sells the brand regardless, hence lining the financial analysts pockets so should I be surprised if they care not what we want?
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Kane if we don't start winning then the former glories of yesteryear will no longer be able to sell the LFC brand and will no longer line the financial pockets! To assume they don't care if we win or not is crazy because we all know what happens when you assume! I'm hoping, but not holding my breath, that they recognize our shortfalls and will back our current manager to buy the players we require, most importantly a genuine, clinical striker whether it be in January or next summer! If they don't then they are really hanging the man they selected out to dry! Supporters need to realize that our squad is very thin and whilst our first eleven has plenty of interntaionals in it, it's our second string players that the quality. Players are not robots and cannot play competiive every 3 days and remain fit because the human body just doesn't stand up to that. Yes I was gutted that we lost against Swansea but realistically we fielded a very weakened side, that although has got us through in some of the previous games, were outplayed by a better side.
BR needs time to implement his game strategy which I believe has improved as the season has progressed eventhough we haven't been getting the results and with some depth added to the squad it would help across all the competitions we play in.
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Kane if we don't start winning then the former glories of yesteryear will no longer be able to sell the LFC brand and will no longer line the financial pockets! To assume they don't care if we win or not is crazy because we all know what happens when you assume! I'm hoping, but not holding my breath, that they recognize our shortfalls and will back our current manager to buy the players we require, most importantly a genuine, clinical striker whether it be in January or next summer! If they don't then they are really hanging the man they selected out to dry! Supporters need to realize that our squad is very thin and whilst our first eleven has plenty of interntaionals in it, it's our second string players that the quality. Players are not robots and cannot play competiive every 3 days and remain fit because the human body just doesn't stand up to that. Yes I was gutted that we lost against Swansea but realistically we fielded a very weakened side, that although has got us through in some of the previous games, were outplayed by a better side.
BR needs time to implement his game strategy which I believe has improved as the season has progressed eventhough we haven't been getting the results and with some depth added to the squad it would help across all the competitions we play in. So what was the reason to let AC go ON LOAN then? Of course he is not a clinical finisher but would definitely have been handy against Swansea. He won us the game in the cup against Everton and also played relatively well against Chelsea in the final, are we better off without him? You might say it was FSG's decision, then that would say that BR is just a puppet in thier hands which would be worrying, it's a mess to say the least. We'll see what happens in Jan.
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I feel br has done a fine job so far....but I too am [oops] off with hhhooooowwwww sssslllloooowwwww our attacking play is. We give teams too much time to regroup and defend....I feel bucks honeymoon period is over Sorry mate, what fine job has he done so far? Introduced young players? Kelly, Shelvey, Spearing were playing regularly last season, Coates has a few games and Robinson and Sterling were training with the first team and even had a few games under Kenny, they were just too young to start regularly. Ok, now we are having high possession, so what, we are 14th (if KD had the same performance after taking over from Roy we could have been relegated) out of the league cup, conceeding a lot of goals and have not sorted out our striker problem. So really I can't see the good work so far, i just hope it gets better starting in the week-end. Sterling was plenty ready last year to play but Kenny didn't have the balls to play him. Gave him a few run outs and that was it? He wasted the last 10 games of the season to blood a few youngsters which we have seen this season, several are capable of making the step up without bother. Where did you get us being 14th by the way? We are 12th and have shown a marked inprovement in results in recent games. We all knew and expected the opening 5 games to be tough and probably didn't get the rewards for several excellent performances. Borini was bought to fix our striker problem which unfortunately hasn't worked out but that is football and a 50-60% success rate for transfers is deemed decent. BR has removed a lot of the deadwood from previous managers and freshened up the squad with youth. You harp on about him getting rid of AC but would you have had any issue if he hadn't have been fooled by FSG and seen his move for Dempsey vetoed? He made a mistake in letting AC go but there seems to have been a serious miscommunication there Would you like to have Kenny back?
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I feel br has done a fine job so far....but I too am [oops] off with hhhooooowwwww sssslllloooowwwww our attacking play is. We give teams too much time to regroup and defend....I feel bucks honeymoon period is over Sorry mate, what fine job has he done so far? Introduced young players? Kelly, Shelvey, Spearing were playing regularly last season, Coates has a few games and Robinson and Sterling were training with the first team and even had a few games under Kenny, they were just too young to start regularly. Ok, now we are having high possession, so what, we are 14th (if KD had the same performance after taking over from Roy we could have been relegated) out of the league cup, conceeding a lot of goals and have not sorted out our striker problem. So really I can't see the good work so far, i just hope it gets better starting in the week-end. Sterling was plenty ready last year to play but Kenny didn't have the balls to play him. Gave him a few run outs and that was it? He wasted the last 10 games of the season to blood a few youngsters which we have seen this season, several are capable of making the step up without bother. Where did you get us being 14th by the way? We are 12th and have shown a marked inprovement in results in recent games. We all knew and expected the opening 5 games to be tough and probably didn't get the rewards for several excellent performances. Borini was bought to fix our striker problem which unfortunately hasn't worked out but that is football and a 50-60% success rate for transfers is deemed decent. BR has removed a lot of the deadwood from previous managers and freshened up the squad with youth. You harp on about him getting rid of AC but would you have had any issue if he hadn't have been fooled by FSG and seen his move for Dempsey vetoed? He made a mistake in letting AC go but there seems to have been a serious miscommunication there Would you like to have Kenny back? The kid was what 16 last year and you think it would have been wise to give him a lot of starts, he was already training with the first team squad. KD is well gone and I don't want him back though I think FSG should have given him at least half a season more. Out of 3 half seasons he had one was very poor in the league because we did not have the squad to compete on 3 fronts. Were you against appointing him after his caretaker period, ie, in summer 2011, after that we had if I am not mistaken a top 4 points tally in that half of the season? However, I think it is more than fair to expect his replacement to improve over him, that is the only thing I am asking and you seem to be very unhappy about that.
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I feel br has done a fine job so far....but I too am [oops] off with hhhooooowwwww sssslllloooowwwww our attacking play is. We give teams too much time to regroup and defend....I feel bucks honeymoon period is over Sorry mate, what fine job has he done so far? Introduced young players? Kelly, Shelvey, Spearing were playing regularly last season, Coates has a few games and Robinson and Sterling were training with the first team and even had a few games under Kenny, they were just too young to start regularly. Ok, now we are having high possession, so what, we are 14th (if KD had the same performance after taking over from Roy we could have been relegated) out of the league cup, conceeding a lot of goals and have not sorted out our striker problem. So really I can't see the good work so far, i just hope it gets better starting in the week-end. Sterling was plenty ready last year to play but Kenny didn't have the balls to play him. Gave him a few run outs and that was it? He wasted the last 10 games of the season to blood a few youngsters which we have seen this season, several are capable of making the step up without bother. Where did you get us being 14th by the way? We are 12th and have shown a marked inprovement in results in recent games. We all knew and expected the opening 5 games to be tough and probably didn't get the rewards for several excellent performances. Borini was bought to fix our striker problem which unfortunately hasn't worked out but that is football and a 50-60% success rate for transfers is deemed decent. BR has removed a lot of the deadwood from previous managers and freshened up the squad with youth. You harp on about him getting rid of AC but would you have had any issue if he hadn't have been fooled by FSG and seen his move for Dempsey vetoed? He made a mistake in letting AC go but there seems to have been a serious miscommunication there Would you like to have Kenny back? The kid was what 16 last year and you think it would have been wise to give him a lot of starts, he was already training with the first team squad. KD is well gone and I don't want him back though I think FSG should have given him at least half a season more. Out of 3 half seasons he had one was very poor in the league because we did not have the squad to compete on 3 fronts. Were you against appointing him after his caretaker period, ie, in summer 2011, after that we had if I am not mistaken a top 4 points tally in that half of the season? However, I think it is more than fair to expect his replacement to improve over him, that is the only thing I am asking and you seem to be very unhappy about that. He was 17 from December last year. He would have been well able to start one or 2 games and give him a proper run out. What age were Rooney and Milner when they first started? I wasn't against appointing him because he had done well in that half season but I lost faith in him by the end of the next season as he stubbornly stuck by the same players he had blown 100mil on. He was starting to embarrass the club with his approach to the media. You seem to think that players playing a brand new style of football will just click instantly. That doesn't happen which is why your constant harping about finishing better than 8th is not necessarily a fair target.
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Ok mate, it looks like you are very happy with the way things are and I am not. Let's just agree to disagree and I sincerely hope that you are right as then LFC would be better off, my ultimate happiness.
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6 points from 4th after a slow start with a new manager. Mmmmmm sounds like desperate times ;-)
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