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Re: Gerard Houllier backs Brendan Mr Midd #278748 31/10/12 12:36 PM
Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 8,163 The World's Cosiest Armchair! Carheex 1st Team Squad
Carheex 1st Team Squad Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 8,163 The World's Cosiest Armchair!	To give 'legend' status to Houllier really weakens the meaning of a legend. Granted a he won a few trophies but none of them were major: FA cup/League cup: domestic cups that an english club will win every year. doesn't warrant legendary status UEFA cup: his biggest moment (and my favourite from his reign), but massively overshadowed by the champions league. again, not worhty of legendary status Super cup: nothing more than a friendly some teams take it seriously, others don't. Community shield: again, pretty insignificant. We've had worse managers than Houllier but we've also had much MUCH better. Definitely not worthy of 'legendary' status.

Re: Gerard Houllier backs Brendan Carheex #278749 31/10/12 12:38 PM
Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,537 T Toothy Under 23 Player
Toothy Under 23 Player T Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,537	Originally Posted By: CarheeX Originally Posted By: fazakerley red 1 Originally Posted By: EMP not for me. fairly crap manager in fairness. another one that was afraid to play footy. plus I didn't like some of the things he came out with. ie spitting diouf will never walk alone. in the end failed but brought success winning the first european trophy since roma 84 to the club also brought sami hyypia and hamann to the club and took liverpool into the champions league for the first time , like benitez started well but failed , but i like him backing brendan which shows a bit of class , unlike a certain other ex manager who hasnt which doesnt surprise me one bit . Hold your horses. It was a change in the competition rules that got LFC it's first taste of CL football, not Houllier's 'brilliance'. The season before Houllier's arrival Liverpool finished 3rd and had been in the top 4 for 4 years on the bounce. Houllier's 1st solo season at the helm got us a 4th place finish - 1 below Evans....yet Houllier is the hero for getting us to the champions league?!!? I DO NOT THINK SO! but but er but.....

Re: Gerard Houllier backs Brendan Carheex #278750 31/10/12 12:44 PM
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 112 Mr Midd Under 16 Player
Mr Midd Under 16 Player Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 112	I don’t agree, Gerard Houllier transformed the club and is in part responsible for the success witnessed since he left.

Re: Gerard Houllier backs Brendan Mr Midd #278753 31/10/12 01:10 PM
Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 8,163 The World's Cosiest Armchair! Carheex 1st Team Squad
Carheex 1st Team Squad Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 8,163 The World's Cosiest Armchair!	In that case, Evans was part responsible for houllier's success, and hodgson is part responsible for dalglish's ahem 'success'.

Re: Gerard Houllier backs Brendan Carheex #278755 31/10/12 01:22 PM
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 112 Mr Midd Under 16 Player
Mr Midd Under 16 Player Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 112	Ok….Houllier transformed the discipline at the club, won trophies and laid the foundations for Rafa who in turn won trophies. I was referring to Kenny as a legend from his previous spell as player and player manager. (although if he had someone how could score goals I believe he would still be manager now ) These three have had the most impact on the club since I started following Liverpool. In my opinion all deserve to be classed as legends

Re: Gerard Houllier backs Brendan fazakerley red 1 #278758 31/10/12 01:49 PM
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kane3 Under 16 Player K Joined: Oct 2012 Posts: 138	Originally Posted By: fazakerley red 1 brilliant from gerard real think this is top stuff Houllier to LFC fans: "As you did with me support the team and the manager because he will need it over the next 2 years." Isnt working at the moment...crap manager With 2 wins from 9 couldnt really say anything else but drone out the same drizzle.YAWNS

Re: Gerard Houllier backs Brendan kane3 #278759 31/10/12 01:56 PM
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Carheex 1st Team Squad Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 8,163 The World's Cosiest Armchair!	Originally Posted By: kane3 Originally Posted By: fazakerley red 1 brilliant from gerard real think this is top stuff Houllier to LFC fans: "As you did with me support the team and the manager because he will need it over the next 2 years." Isnt working at the moment...crap manager With 2 wins from 9 couldnt really say anything else but drone out the same drizzle.YAWNS That's the old line used to explain why rafa is so 'rubbish/toxic'!!!

Re: Gerard Houllier backs Brendan Carheex #278763 31/10/12 02:03 PM
Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,537 T Toothy Under 23 Player
Toothy Under 23 Player T Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,537	One of the indicators that a manager is a 'legend' is that its slmost undisputed... The other thing is the longer time goes on an memories become blurred a manager is more likely to be considered a legend. I actually think the only 'legends' were shankly dalglish and paisley, Benitez imo was a great manager not a legend, houlier was a very good manager, nothing more nothing less

Re: Gerard Houllier backs Brendan Carheex #278767 31/10/12 02:07 PM
Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 7,552 Bar 1st Team Squad
Bar 1st Team Squad Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 7,552	Originally Posted By: CarheeX To give 'legend' status to Houllier really weakens the meaning of a legend. Granted a he won a few trophies but none of them were major: FA cup/League cup: domestic cups that an english club will win every year. doesn't warrant legendary status UEFA cup: his biggest moment (and my favourite from his reign), but massively overshadowed by the champions league. again, not worhty of legendary status Super cup: nothing more than a friendly some teams take it seriously, others don't. Community shield: again, pretty insignificant. We've had worse managers than Houllier but we've also had much MUCH better. Definitely not worthy of 'legendary' status. He won a lot of trophies. However, his biggest achievement in my eyes is not the sum of all of the trophies he won in his 6 years (which is impressive enough anyway), but the fact that he won the treble (5 trophies altogether) in the in my space of one year. That's an incredible achievement and one we may never see at the club again. That in my eyes warrants legendary status - albeit not to the heights of Shankly and Paisley. RODGERS SKRTEL *JONJO 'Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?' 'If there is hope, it lies in the proles'

Re: Gerard Houllier backs Brendan Mr Midd #278768 31/10/12 02:07 PM
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EnergisedReds Liverpool Legend Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 22,926	Originally Posted By: Mr Midd I don’t agree, Gerard Houllier transformed the club and is in part responsible for the success witnessed since he left. One thing he did that I would be thankful for is to introduce Stevie G. Doesn't say somebody else wouldn't have don't it, but he did it and credit should go to him. Now a lot of people are asking to support BR, the main reason being our worst start of the season in something like a 100 years. I don't think though that we have the worst squad in a 100 years. If we were in the top 4 right now, nobody would worry about who is supporting BR or not. Let's hope that BR can steer the ship out of the bottom half of the table quickly so that nobody doubts his capabilities.

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