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ben there is a big difference between a racist name and actual discrimination.
Luis Garcia, He drinks sangria
He came from Barca, to bring us Joy
He's five foot seven, he's football heaven
please don't take my Luis away.
"...AND 32 MILLION POUNDS WORTH OF GOALKEEPER CAN'T DO A THING ABOUT IT"
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Neither should be considered as acceptable. Why would the notion of calling someone a race related name enter a persons head? If you want to insult a person why would you use their race as part of the attack? If someone calls another person a fat black cnt does that mean not only are you fat and a cnt but you're also black? I think so! Would they call someone else a fat white cnt? No!
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You seem upset.
My point is that I have seen no evidence of racial discrimination in football whatsoever. Yes, some players call each other names - is that what passes as 'racism' these days???!
Many people suffered horrendous discrimination and were beaten, raped, tortured and enslaved just because of their skin colour. Putting a name-calling 'victim' in the same boat as those who have suffered genuine loss totally trivialises their plight.
Is danny rose on the same level as a slave who was raped, lost her children and had husband murdered? You don't seem able to differentiate and are taking it out on me.
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Neither should be considered as acceptable. Why would the notion of calling someone a race related name enter a persons head? If you want to insult a person why would you use their race as part of the attack? If someone calls another person a fat black cnt does that mean not only are you fat and a cnt but you're also black? I think so! Would they call someone else a fat white cnt? No! Is it ok to call someone a fat c*nt then? Are you some kind of fat-ist?
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I've got a workmate that is a bit racist against white people. She doesn't really think much of their attitudes, and what makes it interesting is......she's white too.
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You seem upset.
My point is that I have seen no evidence of racial discrimination in football whatsoever. Yes, some players call each other names - is that what passes as 'racism' these days???!
Many people suffered horrendous discrimination and were beaten, raped, tortured and enslaved just because of their skin colour. Putting a name-calling 'victim' in the same boat as those who have suffered genuine loss totally trivialises their plight.
Is danny rose on the same level as a slave who was raped, lost her children and had husband murdered? You don't seem able to differentiate and are taking it out on me. You're talking rubbish, I never compared anything of the sort and I'm hardly taking it out on you. I was just responding to what were obviously ridiculous comments because i'm gobsmacked that a seemingly intelligent person (which you give the impression that you are) has views like this.
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Carheex, I do love the cut of your jib. Great sense of humour!
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You seem upset.
My point is that I have seen no evidence of racial discrimination in football whatsoever. Yes, some players call each other names - is that what passes as 'racism' these days???!
Many people suffered horrendous discrimination and were beaten, raped, tortured and enslaved just because of their skin colour. Putting a name-calling 'victim' in the same boat as those who have suffered genuine loss totally trivialises their plight.
Is danny rose on the same level as a slave who was raped, lost her children and had husband murdered? You don't seem able to differentiate and are taking it out on me. You're talking rubbish, I never compared anything of the sort and I'm hardly taking it out on you. I was just responding to what were obviously ridiculous comments because i'm gobsmacked that a seemingly intelligent person (which you give the impression that you are) has views like this. This forum generally doesn't take too well to people accusing others of talking rubbish, being ignorant and making ridiculous comments just because they differ to your own. You might want to cut down on the verbal abuse which you are so passionately against. Maybe we should start again? Can you give me any examples of racial discrimination within football? I have never seen a person of any colour discriminated against because of their skin, within the football industry.
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There's no 'racism' in football, just a bunch of trouble makers crying about name calling because it's the current trend.
IF there was an issue it would have been prevalent for a long time. But it hasn't. It has flared up recently because players mis-use the 'race card' and it has snowballed.
(There's a high level of media coverage about alex reid and chantelle houghton's realtionship but that doesn't necessarily mean it's a big issue that needs to be resolved!) This is exactly my point really. I'm glad that media coverage of this 'problem' has been so high as at least it's something important and not the usual crap we're used to in the media. Now regardless of whether there is racism in football or not, we live in a society in which racism is on the whole not tolerated. I'm slightly irked by the idea that it's boring the guy who originally started this thread.
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You seem upset.
My point is that I have seen no evidence of racial discrimination in football whatsoever. Yes, some players call each other names - is that what passes as 'racism' these days???!
Many people suffered horrendous discrimination and were beaten, raped, tortured and enslaved just because of their skin colour. Putting a name-calling 'victim' in the same boat as those who have suffered genuine loss totally trivialises their plight.
Is danny rose on the same level as a slave who was raped, lost her children and had husband murdered? You don't seem able to differentiate and are taking it out on me. You're talking rubbish, I never compared anything of the sort and I'm hardly taking it out on you. I was just responding to what were obviously ridiculous comments because i'm gobsmacked that a seemingly intelligent person (which you give the impression that you are) has views like this. This forum generally doesn't take too well to people accusing others of talking rubbish, being ignorant and making ridiculous comments just because they differ to your own. You might want to cut down on the verbal abuse which you are so passionately against. Maybe we should start again? Can you give me any examples of racial discrimination within football? I have never seen a person of any colour discriminated against because of their skin, within the football industry. you don't consider name calling racism (or discrimination at least) but a lot of people would and it is still prevalent in football and most areas of society today
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