KopTalk.com Forums Football Liverpool FC Forum clattenburg reputed to have said this............

What is racisim ? because some of us are mighty confused. It can't be to negatively descriminate based on colour because white people are at the lowest of the pecking order and if you are a male, white, hetrosexual forget it! No racism has morphed into something new and it seems to me its about power over others based on your perceived victim status. Many years ago the unions tried to gain power by economic means and failed now I think political correctness is trying to achieve the same ends. I can see quotas coming in soon and the FA being forced to have an allocation of managers based on victim hierarchy and individual clubs boards will be lean't on.

I agree with Carheex in that I don't think it's a big problem, particularly in football and partcularly in England. Mostly it's the press looking for a story or the anti-race industry looking for something to do.

You say educate people, but educate them in what, not being racist? The majority of racism is probably from people too stupid to realise what racism is, they just need educating full stop, but that's obviously not really what the government wants.

I dont think racism really exists, its just fuelled by anger and insecurity, people looking for a way to vent anger, or release their frustrations because there lives havent turned out how they'd hoped. 'I want to work but the poles have taken all the jobs'. What? ALL the jobs? If they're born here they're considered British and 'ok'?
I bet most racists couldn't explain why they're racist. They can't because it doesn't really make sense, how can you hate an entire race? They're just stupid, angry or depressed. They'll die out like everything else, don't give them the time of day.

Karma is a biatch isnt it Chelsea? Their captain is not even playing because of abusing other players. I find it funny. Shoot me down if you will.

even for murder they take into account the context of the situation! Apparently not in these cases its absolute,- youoffended the person with darker skin, you used those words, so you are guilty because what possible motive could someone have for making it up or provoking you into it?

I'd def agree with you in terms of that its fuelled by anger and insecurity but I think the incident in Serbia goes to show that racism is still very evident in some societies.

Education I think comes into it because as you say, it's stupid and makes no sense to hate some because of their race. However, it happens and for someone to say that it's ok to have this attitude as long as you don't act on it is just wrong. Having said that I also hate the way that the media loves to jump on this kind of controversy, they lap up anything with a shock value be a racist, pedophile or whatever.

he is a tw*t
he is spanish
he is fat
whats wrong wit calling him a fat spanish tw*t. its decribing him. is the word 'spainish' the only problem in this sentence. just because someone wants to jump on the bandwagon and use the race card. you can feel aggrieved by being called fat or a tw*t but how the nationality, or colour for that matter adds to the insult is ludicrous

Can you really not get it? Shocking

Good point! Call me a fat tw*t all you like but don't you dare call me Spanish.......

Come off it KP - if you watch a game on TV there is some player calling the ref a f***ing w****r every 5 minutes. Should the players be kicked out of the league as well? or maybe they should only be thrown out of the league if they call him an "english" f***ing w****r? 'Cos that's 'much' worse....

We have become a nation of soppy social workers with eveyone being offended and having the outlook of a 5 year old.