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joecool #277620 27/10/12 12:57 PM
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I think Dalglish did immense damage to the club the £100m plus has almost entirely been wasted almost all moved on and probably be lucky to get a quarter back after 12 months. Not surprisingly he owners are reluctant to invest. But invest we must if we are to break out of this position. As for the fan base no its not the be all and end all but it is a huge asset. We got £39k for a televised europa game on a mid week night.


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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
I think Dalglish did immense damage to the club the £100m plus has almost entirely been wasted almost all moved on and probably be lucky to get a quarter back after 12 months. Not surprisingly he owners are reluctant to invest. But invest we must if we are to break out of this position. As for the fan base no its not the be all and end all but it is a huge asset. We got £39k for a televised europa game on a mid week night.


Dalglish would spend that on magic beans!

Stanley Park #277623 27/10/12 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
I think Dalglish did immense damage to the club the £100m plus has almost entirely been wasted almost all moved on and probably be lucky to get a quarter back after 12 months. Not surprisingly he owners are reluctant to invest. But invest we must if we are to break out of this position. As for the fan base no its not the be all and end all but it is a huge asset. We got £39k for a televised europa game on a mid week night.
gate receipts are peanuts in the modern game now for Premiership Clubs, you either play Champions League or your an also ran regarding big Clubs and the criteria.

joecool #277625 27/10/12 01:40 PM
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I agree and thats why we must target champions league football sooner rather than later especially if we have to fund the ground redevelopment


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Stanley Park #277627 27/10/12 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
I agree and thats why we must target champions league football sooner rather than later especially if we have to fund the ground redevelopment
stanley as much as we would like we are not going to replace City in the Champions League.

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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
I agree and thats why we must target champions league football sooner rather than later especially if we have to fund the ground redevelopment
but stan how much people live in this land of everything is great world and certain people are untouchable because of past glories , its the previous managers not manager managers who have put the club back years , through being stubborn, egotistical,and wasting multi millions leaving liverpool in such a poor position it will take a long time might never happen to return to being a top 4 team

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joecool #277630 27/10/12 01:45 PM
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I am not disagreeing with your analysis and that of Faz. But for me winning a cup or two and accepting 6th place in perpetuity is not good enough. Not for a club of our fanbase and stature I think we as fans have a duty to put FSG under pressure and give them the easy ride they have now. This acceptable of mid ranking seems to be tacit if thats the aims of the club let FSG say it offcially and then we can let them know what we think.
stanley, why do you keep going on about fanbase, other Clubs have big fan bases does'nt mean they should be playing champions League or win leagues, look at Leeds United and Sheff Wed they have bigger fan bases than Fulham, West Brom and Stoke City If you look at Leeds United and Everton they have bigger fan bases than Spurs and City and Wolves have a bigger fan base than Wigan and Reading it means absolutely nothing just because you have loads of fans, United and Celtic have arguably the biggest fan bases in the world all that matters is the money and power you have and ability to buy the best players while giving them the most money. If Messi left Barca tomorrow how many Clubs do you think he would pick before he came to us and do you think he would be worried by how many fans we had, dont think so.


International fan base gives you better sponsorship contracts, this is why we got a good deal with both Standard Chartered and Warriors (even if Adidas didn't want to pay that kind of money because we were no longer in the Champions league). We are still among the top 10 teams in terms of revenue if I am not mistaken and a lot has to do with our global fan base (sponsorship and merchandise). However, I reckon that if we do not get back challenging for honours, we would definitely have global fan base like Leeds, Everton etc and we'll stay a mid to bottom club for ever...until we get a billionaire owner investing in the club. The window is still open, but not for long.

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Thats a good point Vish we are getting sponsorship now because of the worlwide brand but those are one offs largely we canny expect them to continue for the next ten years. We need positive action from FSG


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Stanley Park #277635 27/10/12 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Thats a good point Vish we are getting sponsorship now because of the worlwide brand but those are one offs largely we canny expect them to continue for the next ten years. We need positive action from FSG
yes thats the way I see it stanley, so how long you gonna give it then being outside the top four before you finaly accept we are no longer the big Club some people seem to think we are then, this will be our fourth season outside btw.

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