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like the civil rights movement needed the panters.

I think it was the porn industry that needed the panters. grin

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showing my ignorance of the porn industry here but what is a panter..i meant of course the black panthers

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The reason why Rio didnt get that much of a fine was because he didnt make the comment he acknowledged a comment that someone sent him on Twitter

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Originally Posted By: EMP
Originally Posted By: CarheeX
But the choc-ice comment WAS racist. He disapproved of cole's actions and tried to insult him by saying he was white on the inside, ie not acting like a black man should. Therefore, he used "white" as a slur against cole. Is it a bad thing to be white or to act white? Ferdinand thinks so and that's why his comment was racist.


the reference is more to do with being a turncoat. being an uncle tom as ali would have called it.


Choc ice and ''coco nut''is also used by africans to denote afro caribeans ie of lighter skin colour. The terms racist whether rio is darker skinned or lighter skinned doesnt matter, its a form of bullying as well , bullying based on skin colour /ethnic origin/ colour, the worst kind in a lot of peoples opinion

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Originally Posted By: CarheeX
But the choc-ice comment WAS racist. He disapproved of cole's actions and tried to insult him by saying he was white on the inside, ie not acting like a black man should. Therefore, he used "white" as a slur against cole. Is it a bad thing to be white or to act white? Ferdinand thinks so and that's why his comment was racist.
not the only reason why it could be perceived as racist

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think they would be better off going through the players union too. You can see were they are coming from, how many black people are high up in the FA? not many I would imagine. Sometimes u need a more extreme reaction just to provoke normal circumstances..like the civil rights movement needed the panters.


That's irrelevant. There could be any number of reasons why there aren't black people high up within the FA. The FA may not have received applications from blacks with the relevant experience or skills, there may be blacks suitable for roles within the FA but who weren't available when the positions became available. Is it so hard to accept that the people currently employed by the FA are the best people for the job?

I agree with David James - there is no signs of racism in 'football'. A handful of knobeheads calling people names from the terraces doesn't count and is a seprate issue.
I see plenty of black people earning more money in a year than I will earn in my entire life. If there was 'racism' within football then they wouldn't be given these opportunities.

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i would actually like to know the figures of black ppl that have took their coaching courses. is the small amount of black managers etc discrimation, or is it that there is such a small pool of adequate and capable black managers that want to go on to management. this breakaway group is racism in its finest. its the world against us attitude.white ppl need not apply.do we stop giving the best doctors jobs to fill qoutas, no.we all want equality, but setting up breakaway groups is nonsense.the cream always rises to the top, b it black, white or green

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if you want to sit around at home allday you won't get a FA qualification... or maybe theey sell them now in blatters brown envelopes

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they meet even start giving scholarships

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maybe they should..just cause ur white and went to the same private school as the prime minister doesn't mean u are best qualified for the job..look at the mess the FA has made of things such as hillsborough..more diversity is probably needed..that said I don't think a seperate association is a good idea and I don't think racism is rife, but a better representation is called for.

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