KopTalk.com Forums Football Liverpool FC Forum Brendan Rodgers vs Rafa Benitez vs FSG

hard to argue with the facts isn it ! Benitez p1ssed on the other managers that came after and BR will have to win the league to out do him

i notice you are having trouble reading so i will leave you to this thread, staying up all night thinking about rafa and what an asty man he is!!

oh ok so hodgson and dalglish failed but benitez never and because rodgers will fail and we bring back once again another failed ex manager , oh i get it now all liverpool failure were down to roy hodgson , so thats benitez starting the decline and spending millions like dalglish did , and H&G was roy fault as well , its so clear now .

night night!

The achievements of Rafa at LFC are remarkable when reading the stats and for this he should be recognised! Whilst I agree he fought his war with the previous owners the wrong way, he had a terrible final year at the club due to his arrogance and not being a yes man but the amount of sh1t he gets from some posters is remarkable because many of them don't recognise his achievement and that's what is unfair! The mans love for club and his want for the club to be successful is evident and credit to him for that.

I personally don't want Rafa back at the club now because it is history and he hasn't managed for 2-3 seasons and although he would love to be back we have a new manager taking us forward in a new direction and I back Brendan Rodgers 100% and will do so as long as he continues with his path.

As for the owners, I am not 100% convinced with them at this stage but do believe they are being very cautious with their decision and it would be ridiculous to say that they don't want improvement for the club moving forward! Reason I say this is because if the club does not improve both on and off the field then the owners will not make the profits they would like when they do eventually look to sell! Regardless if whether decisions are based on future value or for the love of the club they want improvement for the value of LFC to increase. This will happen via off field marketing and sponsorships and a new stadium but ultimately come down to on field success which is why I believe they need to invest in the squad.

With Brendan not being backed 100% in his first transfer period, the owners may have been cautious due to the wasted funds from previous transfer windows and they wanted to see how BR would spend his money! I disagree with what FSG did in regards to the Dempsey deal because I believe the manager should make decisions regarding transfers but maybe the owners were a little weary due to previous wasted funds!

If FSG back Rodgers to handle these things in the future then I truly believe he can take us back to being a big club and be feared once again in Europe.

YNWA

I still cannot understand the resentment towards Benitez. By his last season, I felt that a change was needed and that he had probably taken us as far as he could and we needed fresh ideas but his time before that, winning what he did and having us consistently in the Champions League deserves respect. Yes, he failed to win the league but he came close and we were feared in Anfield.

His time after he left Liverpool has absolutely nothing, and I stress again NOTHING, to do with his time at Liverpool and throwing around statements about why he can't get a job now have no relevance whatsoever to his time here.

People talk about the cult of Benitez but they are the ones most obsessed about Benitez.

Rodgers has my backing 100% and I never want Benitez back at the club because I don't think it ever works out in the end but I respect the man for his achievments here

Why because he failed after 3 months at Reading or because he nearly got Watford relegated from the championship?I have nothing againgst this manager but if the club were genuinely looking to move to a higher plane after Benitez then get in a quality manager with some pedigree (Klopp, Biesla).The reason Benitez keeps getting mentioned is because we havent replaced him with a better manager,we just keep getting mediocre journeymen.Gerrard proclaiming that he will probably never win the league now at this club tells me everything I need to know.

I agree with this as I had my doubts when BR was appointed and our start of the season hasn't cleared them. However, now that he has been appointed, i have decided to judge him (whether to confirm or not my doubts) at the end of the season. Doesn't mean that if i disagree with something I won't debate about it here on the forum, but, doesn't mean neither that I want him out now.

Perhaps Faz, Emp and Kop prophet can answer that. I'm very puzzled too. It's not as if rafa killed someone or something.

Anyone who thinks Rafa is poisonous, needs medical attention. Fans like you will never be happy what ever the situation. I would kill to have those days back, we where a force, a real heavy weight. We didn't care who we drew in the CL, every one was scared of us. Especially Chelsea lol. We had serious ding dongs with them, NOW the like of stoke and Sunderland laugh at us.
FSG are bull**** I've said from the beginning under Imredtillimdead, and got banned for my comments for not being with the Rafa bashers crowd. All u haters out there will be eating ur words when things go really wrong. Look at Nottingham Forrest, Leeds Utd don't for one minute that can't happen to us. You just have to look at our team sheet, under Benitez we had Torres, Gerrard, Alonso, Masherano, Kuyt, Arbeloa. In my opinion as a minimum reg to get back into top 4 is 1 out n out recognised striker with proven record 2 classy wingers robben style and one more holding mid field Nigel Dejong. Then we can really go for top 4, that's 80M investment, till then just get used to disappointment.

Oh btw I want BR to succeed and do well, I want FSG to sort it out our just **** OFF. We don't want the crap ur feeding us, I positively hate FSG with a passion, there agenda is the same as H&G no matter how you look at it.