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Originally Posted By: van Gogh
Same players in all games?

That would mean around 55-60 games a season for those players, and all the bench warmers being totally out of match fitness.

How many injuries are you counting on then, and how to deal with them?

How many other teams use your strategy?
worked alrite for Bob Paisley, what was the famous quote Sir Bob said when he was asked about wether he was changing his team for an up and coming fixture oh yes " The team will be the same as last Year " if it was good enough when we were winning Cups and Leagues then it should still be good enough now.

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That's where I think you are blatantly wrong, mate!

Back in those days no other teams were good enough to punish us or had back up players good enough to make a difference if someone got injured.

Look att City now for instance: At least 2 players in every position good enough to win them the league.

The problem for us is that we don't have squad depth enough to constantly keep our best XI on the pitch. We desperately need to "circulate" when possible, which means playing the strongest team angainst the strongest opposition and vice versa.

This will take us on a bumpy ride, but nevertheless sadly it's exactly what we will have to practise.

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True Joe but squad rotation is very much a recent thing.

In the 70's and 80's changes to any team were few and far between. All team played more or less the same team every week.

It's totally different now, the squad is all important and generally the stronger the squad the better the team.


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Originally Posted By: Shaggydog
True Joe but squad rotation is very much a recent thing.

In the 70's and 80's changes to any team were few and far between. All team played more or less the same team every week.

It's totally different now, the squad is all important and generally the stronger the squad the better the team.

The only thing different is that managers tell players they need a rest or that there tired so players now believe they are tired and need resting, if players need resting like people on here suggest, how is it Frank Lampard was able to play 164 consecutive games at a level and intensity he did when Chelsea were competing and winning trophies on all fronts, this proves it can be done. I just totaly disagree with squad rotation, if something is not broke then dont try and fix it, you dont change a winning team, if a player comes in does a good job then he stays in the team until he's injured, gets suspended or has a loss of form, then the player waiting in line gets his chance and vice versa, you dont play players because they cost x amount of money, get paid x amount of money or because of who they are or repuation they have, these football ethics have stood the test of time, why try to change them now.

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No you play players because you have added them to your squad because you think they are an excellent addition to your team.

We will agree to differ, it's just easier

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No you play players because you have added them to your squad because you think they are an excellent addition to your team.

We will agree to differ, it's just easier
I have no problem with having a squad, my opinion is when a squad should be used and thats like I said when it's forced on you not before, agree to disagree I think.

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At the moment, Jones

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Well if you could copy out 11 Lampards and put them into one team then it might be possible to repeat that again - or he might pick up an injury before reaching 164 consecutive games.

However, most players and teams aren't made up of Lampards. Some teams have Gerrards and Leivas in them, and those type of teams tend to pick up injuries, right?!

How about you play your best XI against Swindon town in a Capital One Cup game on Wednesday and 4 players get injured. The match is won by 8-0, but for the next upcoming PL game on Saturday, against Man City you will have to work with players like Downing and Henderson instead of the very best. Would that be good tactics in your book?

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yep he did well today, but in general he doesn't feel me with confidence..neither does pepe though. i would start him(jones)v everton.

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Originally Posted By: van Gogh
Well if you could copy out 11 Lampards and put them into one team then it might be possible to repeat that again - or he might pick up an injury before reaching 164 consecutive games.

However, most players and teams aren't made up of Lampards. Some teams have Gerrards and Leivas in them, and those type of teams tend to pick up injuries, right?!

How about you play your best XI against Swindon town in a Capital One Cup game on Wednesday and 4 players get injured. The match is won by 8-0, but for the next upcoming PL game on Saturday, against Man City you will have to work with players like Downing and Henderson instead of the very best. Would that be good tactics in your book?
but what you have just said, is'nt that what has happend in football for over a century, players getting injured, did'nt Jimmy Greaves get injured in the world cup in 66 and get replaced by a certain Geoff Hurst a certain Diego Maradonna ran into problems off the pitch at Napoli and was replaced by a certain nomark called Gianfranco Zola then point I am making is there is a difference between making changes when you have to rather than for the sake of it and when players are fit, available and eager to play why should they be denied the chance to play in order to let somebody play who will be taken out of the team for the very next game anyway, how can players need resting in October anyway when we are just 7 or 8 games in.

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