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Joined: Oct 2012
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pretty football, lots of posession but little end product?
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Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 8,163
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Nah, under Evans we scored loads and were in the top 4 almost every season. The only similarity is the sh!t defence.
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Joined: May 2010
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we have better defenders now dow raddock and babb 
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Joined: Oct 2012
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Under 16 Player
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true but there were not as many good sides in the division then and he was blessed with inheriting an outstanding goalscorer.
begs the question why did we spend 15m on allen when what we really needed was a goalscorer?
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Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,380
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Joined: Jul 2009
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true but there were not as many good sides in the division then and he was blessed with inheriting an outstanding goalscorer.
begs the question why did we spend 15m on allen when what we really needed was a goalscorer? Allen was a signing we needed to make the midfield "tick" and to get the team to adapt to BR's style quicker. He's a steal at 15m
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Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 7,291
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Little end product?
We had Fowler, Collymore, Rush (Although at the end of his career) McManaman...
We played with wing-backs in McAteer and Jones and scored loads of goals and were probably the best attacking team in the country...
95/96 is still one of my favourite Liverpool teams, we were so close to the league but a defeat at Coventry cost us and we didn't turn up to the FA Cup final.
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Joined: Mar 2011
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true but there were not as many good sides in the division then and he was blessed with inheriting an outstanding goalscorer.
begs the question why did we spend 15m on allen when what we really needed was a goalscorer? Allen was a signing we needed to make the midfield "tick" and to get the team to adapt to BR's style quicker. He's a steal at 15m £15m for someone to give the ball to the nearest person 90 times a game is £15m down the drain. I know Swansea fans, big Joe Allan fans, that think we paid 3 or 4 times too much for him. ANYONE could do what he does - the reason not many people do is because it's pointless and gets you nowhere.
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Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 11,128
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Anyone couldn't do what he does, he retains possession in the crowded midfield area.
The vast majority of players lose possession to the opposition or try a hollywood pass with little chance of success.
What he does looks very simple because he is so good at it. But you can only get the ball that often if you have spatial awareness, a cool head once you recieve it and the ability to spot a 5, 10 or 15 yard pass to a team mate.
He retains possession and keeps the play ticking over. I think Shankly would have refered to him as a player who gets the ball and passes it to another player in a red shirt.
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Joined: Jan 2010
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I was quite impressed with him in the first couple of games, but, there has been a decline since. BR says he is not playing in his natural position as he is covering for Lucas. He is not looking as a 15m right now but I would give him the benefit of a doubt, hoping that the decline is not going to continue + any new player needs to be given some time if they have shown promise. Now saying how Shankly would have refered to him is quite pretentious I think.
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Joined: Mar 2011
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Anyone couldn't do what he does, he retains possession in the crowded midfield area.
The vast majority of players lose possession to the opposition or try a hollywood pass with little chance of success.
What he does looks very simple because he is so good at it. But you can only get the ball that often if you have spatial awareness, a cool head once you recieve it and the ability to spot a 5, 10 or 15 yard pass to a team mate.
He retains possession and keeps the play ticking over. I think Shankly would have refered to him as a player who gets the ball and passes it to another player in a red shirt. Other players lose possession because they are trying to create something worthwhile. Allen's sole objective is to give it to the nearest person. It doesn't get us anywhere - any central midfielder from the league 2 upwards could do what he does. (apart from henderson)
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