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We must be watching a different player. because apart from the heading, he's done everything else . We're definitely watching a different player if you think allen can tackle, header, assist, cross, shoot or score. He can pass the ball sideways to the nearest man 300 times a game but so what? where does that get us? anyone could do what he does - the reason they don't is because threre is no point.
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Well, I know not to argue with you. I know what your like with Hendo. But I'll just kindly disagree with you fella.
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Fair enough, but my argument is based on Joe Allen's stats/facts from this season and last....
(Allen is 10x the player that henderson is)
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Joe's stats from yesterday:
Shots: 0
Crosses: 0
Assists: 0
Goals: 0
Dribbles past opponents: 0
Chances created: 1
Tackles: 0
Blocks: 0
Headers won: 0 from 1
Passes: 63 from 69, of which 60 were 'short'.
This tells me that he offers nothing defensively or offensively and would prefer to get rid of the ball asap for no reason other than to chalk up an an extra pass. That might fool/impress some people but what all it says to me is..."what does he do that is worthwhile?"
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I am going to have to stop you there.
"Romance has broke down
This boy is crack'in up"
So not a moderator
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So, where do you see him in 2 seasons?
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Ball retention is Allens game and he is bloody good at it, Gerrard gave the ball away about 35 times yesterday.
"Romance has broke down
This boy is crack'in up"
So not a moderator
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Allen isn't there to score, cross etc. he is there to keep the ball and to pass it to someone who can create and score. As far as I can see, he is going his job and the others aren't. If your style is hoof ball then of course you're not going to like this approach.
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"Romance has broke down
This boy is crack'in up"
So not a moderator
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Okay so I know we are only 6 games into the premier league season but in the games played so far I've been immensely impressed with Joe Allen. I think he was a brilliant purchase by Brendan Rogers at any price. He has become a significant cog in our midfield and it's a joy to watch him passing the ball around. I really hope that he stays for many years to come because for me he is going to be among the best central midfielders in the world.
For me, he has been our stand out player so far this season.
How do you rate him?
Who do you think has been our best player thus far? He has been a good cog as you say. His ball retention has been good. He's kept up his passing stats, but that is partly due to the fact that he very rarely offers anything creative (sometimes he does). He needs to bring creativity into his game, big big big time, otherwise that will have been a very poorly spent 15 million considering what our team actually needs.
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