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You mean The Water Boys? Nice group that! 
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Early season review?
He's done 'ok'. Some people are fooled by his 'accurate passing' others aren't. I'm in the latter. It's all well and good having a 93% pass completion rate but when your average pass is 3 inches to the left or right I don't see how that is anything to celebrate. Almost anyone could do what he does. But what else does he have to his game?
He wins on average less than one header per game
He wins on average one tackle per game
He has no goals
He has no assists
As an average he has 1 shot every 5 games
I just don't see what the fuss is about him. Whilst I think he's an 'ok' player and clearly better than henderson (who isn't!?), I feel that he was an un-necessary purchase, hugely over priced (because of BR's agreement not to poach swansea players), and offers very little in offense and even less in defense.
Overall it looks like we've paid £15m for a player worth about £3-4m (an opinion supported by many Swansea fans). Gerrard, Sahin, Shelvey & Lucas are all much MUCH better central midfielders.
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Okay so I know we are only 6 games into the premier league season but in the games played so far I've been immensely impressed with Joe Allen. I think he was a brilliant purchase by Brendan Rogers at any price. He has become a significant cog in our midfield and it's a joy to watch him passing the ball around. I really hope that he stays for many years to come because for me he is going to be among the best central midfielders in the world.
For me, he has been our stand out player so far this season.
How do you rate him?
Who do you think has been our best player thus far? I agree totally. In fact, the £15m was a bargain. He's worth much more and he'll be a vital player for years to come. The Academy is producing magnificent players who are settling easily into the first team squad. I think in 5 years we will be champions and dominating again.
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Don't be fooled by the stats. Granted, he rarely misplaces a pass but FAR MORE IMPORTANTLY he rarely makes a pass of any significance whatsoever. He doesn't tackle, cross, shoot, assist or header. Very dissapointed in him so far.
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We must be watching a different player. because apart from the heading, he's done everything else .
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We must be watching a different player. because apart from the heading, he's done everything else . joe allen beat crouch in the air twice today , plus if people think joe allen isnt good enough then i dont know what to think .
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I agree with you Faz. Was disagreeing with Car.
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Like Allen do take on board what you say about tackles etc. the way rodgers plays the midfield.needs a ball recycler and thats joe. he passes the ball to the more attack minded guys
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Early season review?
He's done 'ok'. Some people are fooled by his 'accurate passing' others aren't. I'm in the latter. It's all well and good having a 93% pass completion rate but when your average pass is 3 inches to the left or right I don't see how that is anything to celebrate. Almost anyone could do what he does. But what else does he have to his game?
He wins on average less than one header per game
He wins on average one tackle per game
He has no goals
He has no assists
As an average he has 1 shot every 5 games
I just don't see what the fuss is about him. Whilst I think he's an 'ok' player and clearly better than henderson (who isn't!?), I feel that he was an un-necessary purchase, hugely over priced (because of BR's agreement not to poach swansea players), and offers very little in offense and even less in defense.
Overall it looks like we've paid £15m for a player worth about £3-4m (an opinion supported by many Swansea fans). Gerrard, Sahin, Shelvey & Lucas are all much MUCH better central midfielders. Surprise surprise! You must be a right laugh at parties! I think the lad has done well. Seems to have settled in and seems to be able to retain the ball well (you don't always have to pass forward). Hopefully in time when the team fully settles into the system and we get a finisher, he'll start to drive us forward.
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Started very well, vital to our team where ball retention is what we are after. Confident to take the ball in very tight situations and I don't fear he will lose it...which I cannot say for others in the side.
Just wish he would try and pass the ball accurately into the back of the net once in a while when he has got forward.
CarheeX mentions his lack of tackles won, but a guy his size is not going to thunder into 50-50s all day, he has to be smart winning the ball back, his reading of the game and timing mean he can nip the ball back without entering a "tackle" every few minutes.
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