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Joecool, twisting people's words again? We just won our last 2 cup games with Bucko using similar teams. Didn't see you complaining after those games. If you read what I said, the manager gambled in the previous cup games, got the results and received all the plaundits quite rightly however he gambled last nite playing a weakend team and it backfired leaving us in a very difficult position to progress. The way I see it is this, if we now fail to get out of the group, we will look back on this and think could we have got out of this group if Rogers had played his full teams in these games, I personaly think we would have enough quality to progress with our full hit out, even if we played our full hit in the first four group games we could of got enough points and then he could of fielded weakend teams and rested players once we had made our place safe, as it stands now it looks like its going to be in the balance until the final group game when there was absolutely no need for it to be. Can I ask you a question? Why do you continually keep returning? I just couldn't be arsed. I have absolutely no problem with anyone using these forums providing they debate sensibly and leave the OOT stuff out of it. So why not for once just try and debate without losing your account. Your posts are often well put together and not just one liners but I just don't get why you then have to over step the line?
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Joecool, twisting people's words again? We just won our last 2 cup games with Bucko using similar teams. Didn't see you complaining after those games. If you read what I said, the manager gambled in the previous cup games, got the results and received all the plaundits quite rightly however he gambled last nite playing a weakend team and it backfired leaving us in a very difficult position to progress. The way I see it is this, if we now fail to get out of the group, we will look back on this and think could we have got out of this group if Rogers had played his full teams in these games, I personaly think we would have enough quality to progress with our full hit out, even if we played our full hit in the first four group games we could of got enough points and then he could of fielded weakend teams and rested players once we had made our place safe, as it stands now it looks like its going to be in the balance until the final group game when there was absolutely no need for it to be. Can I ask you a question? Why do you continually keep returning? I just couldn't be arsed. I have absolutely no problem with anyone using these forums providing they debate sensibly and leave the OOT stuff out of it. So why not for once just try and debate without losing your account. Your posts are often well put together and not just one liners but I just don't get why you then have to over step the line? Dunk if you read what we are debating you will see it's a genuine disagreement which needs to be debated, I dont think we should be fielding weakend teams in Cup competitions which for me are our only viable realistic targets we can win each season, to totaly dismiss them by a manager showing a lack of respect for them I dont agree with. You seen how the Club was lifted last season by winning the Carling Cup so why dont fans want to taste that again, this is all I am saying. I have stayed within the guidlines of the forum, not insulted anyone and I am just making a point I simply dont agree with, I like Rogers, want him to succeed as much as anyone but just feel no manager is above or imune from critism and feel he is compromising a real chance of success with these tactics.
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No manager is immune from criticism. Nobody is saying that. Thinking criticism is uncalled for (as an opinion) is a totally different matter. Just because people don't agree with your viewpoint, doesn't mean they think Rodgers is immune from criticism.
You point out the fact that he took gambles in the other games against Young Boys and West Brom with the young lads, and the gambles paid off. Need I remind you that our youngsters have done really well this season for us, and it's the senior players who haven't been able to get results so far, so maybe some of the younger players have earned a place, and a bit of respect? I'd also like to remind you that although Stevie and Suarez were rested from the starting lineup, it was hardly a team of youngsters out last night. Reina, Johnson, Borini, Downing, Shelvey, Allen and Carragher all started.
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i will just make another point on this , liverpool are not knocked out of europe and have a home game in the capital cup so unless we get knocked out in the next few weeks cant see why rodgers is getting the stick as the young lads have been better than the senior players , mistakes from skrtel, gerrard,agger, johnson and reina have been the downfall , not wisdom,sahin,allen,sterling or suso.
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imo from fellow reds i know i would say 99.9 % want him to stay..is it really that bad over in liverpool? it looks like am one of those 99.9% i dont know anyone that wants him out. i would give him at least a few seasons
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So where we're your praises for his gambles after the other 2 games? where is the fun when we win? we dont support the club to see then win
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i will just make another point on this , liverpool are not knocked out of europe and have a home game in the capital cup so unless we get knocked out in the next few weeks cant see why rodgers is getting the stick as the young lads have been better than the senior players , mistakes from skrtel, gerrard,agger, johnson and reina have been the downfall , not wisdom,sahin,allen,sterling or suso. To be fair Faz, there is really only one or two who are giving him stick. Most of us understand that these guys can't play 3 or 4 games in 12 days and as you said we are still in both Cups at this stage!
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imo from fellow reds i know i would say 99.9 % want him to stay..is it really that bad over in liverpool? it looks like am one of those 99.9% i dont know anyone that wants him out. i would give him at least a few seasons I would give him another season if there is an improvement over last. I would never just give him a few season(S)no matter what. Football and especially LFC is about competition and results, I will not be happy with just existing. LFC needs to be ambitious enough to at least improve.
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does not matter what you would do it only matters what FSG do
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does not matter what you would do it only matters what FSG do
Kaka Like all other decisions, so no need for any threads by your logic. Mauvais pilon.
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