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cant believe tonight , and we deserve better liverpool are playing great and not getting what liverpool deserve , i am starting to believe we are cursed i feel sorry for everyone all of us frown
think you have to ask yourself why we got beat, If the manager played his strongest team including Suarez and Gerrard then maybe the result would of been different so I dont go along with this unlucky argument. I think we rode our luck in the Young Boys game and West Brom game and came away with good results, tonite Rogers tactics of taking the p*ss out of competitions came back to deservedly bite him on tha a*se and show that we cant afford to play weakend teams because we dont have a squad like City, we got what we deserved tonite because the manager never respected the competition in the first place, lets hope he learns and learns quick it's not all about the league for us anymore but these Cups.
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Stop being a drama queen and feeling sorry for people, bit pathetic just because we lost. The reason we lost was simply because the manager never fielded his strongest team, No Gerrard, No Suarez and No Sterling, there was'nt even a Sahin who had been playing really well recently, you can dress it up as much as you want but this defeat no matter how unlucky it may or may not of been was down to the managers approach to not just this competition but to the Capital Cup itself, he treats them both like there inconviniences which will stop us reaching out League pinnacle of about 7th or 8th. This is now our third straight home defeat on the bounce and Rogers needs to get his finger out, simply not good enough as Udinese are an ordinary team at best.

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cant believe tonight , and we deserve better liverpool are playing great and not getting what liverpool deserve , i am starting to believe we are cursed i feel sorry for everyone all of us frown
think you have to ask yourself why we got beat, If the manager played his strongest team including Suarez and Gerrard then maybe the result would of been different so I dont go along with this unlucky argument. I think we rode our luck in the Young Boys game and West Brom game and came away with good results, tonite Rogers tactics of taking the p*ss out of competitions came back to deservedly bite him on tha a*se and show that we cant afford to play weakend teams because we dont have a squad like City, we got what we deserved tonite because the manager never respected the competition in the first place, lets hope he learns and learns quick it's not all about the league for us anymore but these Cups.
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Stop being a drama queen and feeling sorry for people, bit pathetic just because we lost. The reason we lost was simply because the manager never fielded his strongest team, No Gerrard, No Suarez and No Sterling, there was'nt even a Sahin who had been playing really well recently, you can dress it up as much as you want but this defeat no matter how unlucky it may or may not of been was down to the managers approach to not just this competition but to the Capital Cup itself, he treats them both like there inconviniences which will stop us reaching out League pinnacle of about 7th or 8th. This is now our third straight home defeat on the bounce and Rogers needs to get his finger out, simply not good enough as Udinese are an ordinary team at best.
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i think when you put in a defensive pairing of carra and the rarely played coates, you are going to concede goals.

we have defensive problems under BR that need addressing.


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i didn't see the game but lets not shift the blame onto carra and coates...none of our defenders have defended this season.and that is BR's tiki taka system which is doing it.until we perfect tiki taka we will ship loads of goals , lets at least hope we keep with scoring loads too

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cant believe people are blaming players when this defeat is clearly at the feet of the manager for not taking the competition seriously, if we had played our best team we would of won tonite, we never so it's the managers fault for not playing the correct team in the first place. I am not going to call for the manager's head but he cant keep going on making mistake after mistake in these Cup competitions, it's basic footballing knowledge, you always play your best team until you cant due to injuries, suspensions or players lacking form, none of these were in evident before tonite so why did he change the team from a good win against Norwich, it just does'nt add up.

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were playing a team on sunday that we have to win as stoke are one of the teams around us we need to win , ok maybe against united or city it might not mean as much because they will be up at the top , but tonigths team was pretty strong and if agger , skrtel, gerrard and suarez got injured going into sunday i think it would have been reckless to play them tonight , if the game on sunday is just pure kids against tough stoke city stoke would run right over them , so i dont blame rodgers i dont blame the players for the defeat i just think we got mugged by for me an ordinary team who got lucky , they should have been out of sight , they certainly should have been down to 10 men but for this weak swedish ref who we have had before and was crap then as well .

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Originally Posted By: joecool
cant believe people are blaming players when this defeat is clearly at the feet of the manager for not taking the competition seriously, if we had played our best team we would of won tonite, we never so it's the managers fault for not playing the correct team in the first place. I am not going to call for the manager's head but he cant keep going on making mistake after mistake in these Cup competitions, it's basic footballing knowledge, you always play your best team until you cant due to injuries, suspensions or players lacking form, none of these were in evident before tonite so why did he change the team from a good win against Norwich, it just does'nt add up.


You keep blaming Rodgers for not playing Gerrard, Suarez, Sterling and Sahin.....try this for size, we conceded two goals whiles Gerrard and Suarez were on the pitch....one directly from a Gerrard turnover! Sterling is just a kid and needs to be managed because of the rigours of the premiership and to save him from burning out and Sahin had already played 3 games in 10 days!

At half time we were 1-0 up and dominating the game for most of the game! 1 lapse in concentration at the start of the 2nd half and two poor turnovers, cost us the game.....NOT BRENDAN RODGERS!
He has us playing a great style of football and even he admits that we needs to keep concentration for the entire game both attacking and defensively!!

At least we look like a side that's capable of winning games as opposed to having no show and being dominated!

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Originally Posted By: fazakerley red 1
cant believe tonight , and we deserve better liverpool are playing great and not getting what liverpool deserve , i am starting to believe we are cursed i feel sorry for everyone all of us frown


Sorry mate I don't agree. We will keep losing games with such a defensive display, it's not about defenders, but the system. We have more possession (doesn't mean we deserve to win) with the system as a plus, but, it comes with problems defensively. When we used to collect the golden gloves, we had 2 defensive mid-fielders, now we have a max of 1 and everybody is focussed on possession. When we lose the ball we have problems. Even Barca concedes but they have the players to make a difference in front.

I am not too worried of today's result as our focus should be the league or we'll just get relegated (we do not have a big squad to play on all fronts, reason why we finished badly last year in the league). I am though worried about our defensive display.

BR is saying we were lazy...just heard his interview. So should be easy to correct, he'll just have to use a whip.

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i get the impression that in training BR is more interested in training the defenders to attack than to work on defence.

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Seems to me that BR is working only on the football (with the ball) in training at the minute, because as soon as we lose the ball we do feck all to get it back, a big part of doing this 'tiki-taka' football successfully is pressing as a team high up the pitch. i haven't seen us even try to do this. when we lose the ball theres no fight, and teams just work through our midfield. the players and BR need to add a bit of steel to these performances and we'll be okay.

i see a few people saying we'll definitely get through this group, really? we need 7 points from 4 games 3 of those games are gonna be bloody hard. young boys at home should be easy enough but the 2 games against anzhi and away at udinese tough games. we need the first team to play and to play at their best.

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