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I may be wrong here and it's only my opinion but you may be getting worried mixed up with delighted. five wins this calenda year is hardly something any Liverpool fan can be delighted with, think its a cause for worry myself especialy as we cant bring anybody in until January as a short term fix to get us out of this relegation fight we are currently in. Four games in and we're in a relegation fight just like Arsenal were last season at the same stage! Not for one second suggesting we are as good as them but seriously!?! four games??? what are you talking about, this is no blip, this bad run stretches back to 1st Janaury there is something alot deeper than no wins in four games here, cant believe people are in denial and are just talking about this being four games in, quite baffling really...
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because its a completely new set up. The team that played last year to this year has 5 changes - Kelly, Lucas/Shelvey, Allen, Borini and Sterling. That is why looking at last year is ridiculous
The 6 months to finish the 2010/11 season had us in the top 2 of the league but that didn't matter one bit the next season
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because its a completely new set up. The team that played last year to this year has 5 changes - Kelly, Lucas/Shelvey, Allen, Borini and Sterling. That is why looking at last year is ridiculous
The 6 months to finish the 2010/11 season had us in the top 2 of the league but that didn't matter one bit the next season you have to look at why we have such a poor record from January and to reasons why, we have fielded our full hit for nearly all those games and it still has'nt helped, something is seriously wrong when that happens, even this season we have continued where we left off drawing games all the time, the Club is in free fall and we cant sign anybody until January with the hope of bailing us out, if we fail to beat United it will be five games without a win this season alone...
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because its a completely new set up. The team that played last year to this year has 5 changes - Kelly, Lucas/Shelvey, Allen, Borini and Sterling. That is why looking at last year is ridiculous
The 6 months to finish the 2010/11 season had us in the top 2 of the league but that didn't matter one bit the next season you have to look at why we have such a poor record from January and to reasons why, we have fielded our full hit for nearly all those games and it still has'nt helped, something is seriously wrong when that happens, even this season we have continued where we left off drawing games all the time, the Club is in free fall and we cant sign anybody until January with the hope of bailing us out, if we fail to beat United it will be five games without a win this season alone... The club is not in free fall as dramatically as you believe. We are going to struggle though without a new stadium but thats another issue. We lost our opening day match under a new manager playing a completely new brand of football. Not entirely unexpected. We drew with the current champions where we outplayed them and only 2 defensive lapses cost us the win but it was encouraging signs. I didn't see the Arsenal game but from what I gather from reading on here, it was our poorest performance of the year but it came against an Arsenal team that have really clicked this year (against my expectations). We drew with Sunderland where we dominated the guts of 75 minutes and were only on the backfoot after they scored til half time but came out showing a fighting spirit in the 2nd half and deserved the points but these things happen. We have qualified with ease to the Europa League stages, giving a lot of the young players a proper platform with which to prove themselves and so far it has already yielded Sterling as having the skill and talent to play immediately and it doesn't look like he will be the last one. Shelvey has also grown in stature this season.
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I may be wrong here and it's only my opinion but you may be getting worried mixed up with delighted. five wins this calenda year is hardly something any Liverpool fan can be delighted with, think its a cause for worry myself especialy as we cant bring anybody in until January as a short term fix to get us out of this relegation fight we are currently in. Four games in and we're in a relegation fight just like Arsenal were last season at the same stage! Not for one second suggesting we are as good as them but seriously!?! four games??? what are you talking about, this is no blip, this bad run stretches back to 1st Janaury there is something alot deeper than no wins in four games here, cant believe people are in denial and are just talking about this being four games in, quite baffling really... Yes four games! It's a different team, different manager an different structure! I'm in no denial about the previous season in which we ended terribly but also got to an FA Cup final and WON, yes WON, the Carling Cup, because yes it was a bad finish to our league season! But YES it is four games under this new structure!
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Ged always assumes the future will be the same as the immediate past. Yes we were in freefall under Kenny yes we wasted tens of millions on dross. But he has gone the squad is threadbare but we will sign new players and they will be sensible ones. We also look to have at least 3 to 4 youngsters who will make the grade this season in the first team. Rodgers my bones tell ne is going to be a great manager trust me on that. The only issue I have is FSG. Otherwise you can expect progress every year from now on. Just my opinion but its all about opinions.
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because its a completely new set up. The team that played last year to this year has 5 changes - Kelly, Lucas/Shelvey, Allen, Borini and Sterling. That is why looking at last year is ridiculous
The 6 months to finish the 2010/11 season had us in the top 2 of the league but that didn't matter one bit the next season you have to look at why we have such a poor record from January and to reasons why, we have fielded our full hit for nearly all those games and it still has'nt helped, something is seriously wrong when that happens, even this season we have continued where we left off drawing games all the time, the Club is in free fall and we cant sign anybody until January with the hope of bailing us out, if we fail to beat United it will be five games without a win this season alone... The club is not in free fall as dramatically as you believe. We are going to struggle though without a new stadium but thats another issue. We lost our opening day match under a new manager playing a completely new brand of football. Not entirely unexpected. We drew with the current champions where we outplayed them and only 2 defensive lapses cost us the win but it was encouraging signs. I didn't see the Arsenal game but from what I gather from reading on here, it was our poorest performance of the year but it came against an Arsenal team that have really clicked this year (against my expectations). We drew with Sunderland where we dominated the guts of 75 minutes and were only on the backfoot after they scored til half time but came out showing a fighting spirit in the 2nd half and deserved the points but these things happen. We have qualified with ease to the Europa League stages, giving a lot of the young players a proper platform with which to prove themselves and so far it has already yielded Sterling as having the skill and talent to play immediately and it doesn't look like he will be the last one. Shelvey has also grown in stature this season. we were beaten with ease by Swansea last game of the season, stuffed good and proper by an average to decent West Brom side, battled well against City but still no win, scraped past a very poor Hearts team, given the run around by the fourth best team in the country Arsenal at home, gave a good account of ourselves against mid table Sunderland but still failed to get points and now we are about to play probably the best team in the country, looking at the fixtures there is no game ahead you can safely say we should win given how poor we are which is worrying considering where we are in the league, this summs up our team at present.
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What a depressing life you must lead thinking about all the negative things that happened in the past and will happen again in the future because they have already happened once before!
Can I ask you to take of the dark glasses for a second and look a but deeper I to what our manager is trying to do?
Nobody here is expecting miracles and for us to be world beaters in one day but those of us with a bit of vision and foresight can see that the club are building for the future!
Let me mention a few names.....Allen, Spearing, Shelvey, Wisdom, Suso and there is more! Whilst they may not be world beaters at the moment they have all certainly shown a lot of potential and adding these youngsters to the mix of Suarez, Agger, Sahin, Gerrard, Johnson, Lucas, Kelly, And others our list is not so bad! Yes we need a striker and a bit more depth but try to see the future a little more brightly and with a bit more optimism than you are.
It may make for a slightly better day. :-)
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The defeat at Swansea LAST season has no baring on this one. You give a very bleak description of our games where we have done well and everything comes with a caveat of some description. You have a very bleak view of things, I have the opposite. We will never agree.
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because its a completely new set up. The team that played last year to this year has 5 changes - Kelly, Lucas/Shelvey, Allen, Borini and Sterling. That is why looking at last year is ridiculous
The 6 months to finish the 2010/11 season had us in the top 2 of the league but that didn't matter one bit the next season What do you mean it didn't matter one bit the next season? Let me get your facts right. In the 2nd half of 2010/11 our points tally was 33, 1st half of last season it was 34 (pretty close), however, in the 2nd half it was 18. My opinion is that this happened because our arguably best player (Suarez) was banned for the first 8 games, we had to play Jay Spearing as our defensive midfielders were out injured, Stevie was not very fit and we were competing in both Cups. We did not have the depth to be competitive in both Cup competitions and the league and as soon as we lost the Arsenal game at home (we more than dominated that particular game if you watched), it became clear that we would not qualify for champions league. The focus changed to the cups. I don't think we had/have a bad team as some feel, in that 2nd half of the season we did beat both Manchester Teams in the Cup and Chelsea (agree that Chealsea played a weaker team as they were concentrating on champions league) in the league.
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