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Who knows. Boroni might come good and start to bang them in, he had two shots on target last game, good sign of doing something right. 4 games in, give it some time. Who knows what happened during the transfer, is it worth speculating? Yes we are shot forwards, early days yet.
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Yesil is coming... our saviour... the new Klose! Could ypu please ask him to sprint? We need him...yesterday
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so 3 games later... how untrusting, unfaithfull and fickle. At the moment we are playing what I would term "brave football" cause it's brave to play tika-taka football with the player's that we have! Jokes, we got good player's, but like any team re-building the player's will take time to understand each other and then on top of that a new system that none of these player's, to my knowlegde have played in before.
I dont care about the scorelines, even for this season, I will be happy if we are in the top 8 or 6.
Please dont tell me that tika-taka football does not work, like any system it has it's weakness's, but Spain have won all 3 major football touraments so to say that it does not work after so little time is unsupportive of where this football club at this critical time in it's history.
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so 3 games later... how untrusting, unfaithfull and fickle. At the moment we are playing what I would term "brave football" cause it's brave to play tika-taka football with the player's that we have! Jokes, we got good player's, but like any team re-building the player's will take time to understand each other and then on top of that a new system that none of these player's, to my knowlegde have played in before.
I dont care about the scorelines, even for this season, I will be happy if we are in the top 8 or 6.
Please dont tell me that tika-taka football does not work, like any system it has it's weakness's, but Spain have won all 3 major football touraments so to say that it does not work after so little time is unsupportive of where this football club at this critical time in it's history.
I will be damn-happy if Tiki Taka improves our last year's position, ie, in the top 8 or 6 as you say, believe me. Of course Tiki Taka works but in a country where you learn to play like that as a kid, not sure it happens in England + we don't have resources to buy a lot from there. We'll see who is fickle very soon. Would be happy if I am proven wrong.
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Cool, so you understand that English player's are not at all in the same techincal league as the rest of europe, never mind Spain.
But here is the good new's...liverpool are starting from scratch...No it's good. finally a football system is to be applied right across LFC. About time too. If you think we need to buy player's think again. Swansea has players that have travelled with the club from it's humble beginings to the Premiership. And where were Swansea 5 season's ago? And with what money did they do this with?
So FSG, dont know much about football as is pointed out with thier blind faith of appointing Dalglish and giving him cash to splash...now we are broke. Tottaly over paying for very average player's. But that is now gone and no player now in the world will get a free-lunch at Liverpool.
If any LFC supporter would like a "quick-fix", I am afraid you need to go support another club.
BR said it himself that he will need to adapt this football style to the English game, to get short -term results. Ie: to win games ugly, but to win. Slowly he will become more strict with the player"s over time.
Another point I would like to make about tika-taka is that when we get back to Champions Leauge our game will be adapte right to the top of Europe. There should not be a huge learning step or having to change our style...teams will be ball chasing, forcing them to change thier style rather.
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So how long you say we need to wait for this to work, 5 years? And who tells you that as soon as we form a good Tiki Taka player, we won't get Barca (and other richer teams) bidding for him and he's gone, like what we've been seeing at Arsenal? All this if I assume that BR is a master of Tiki Taka, there is only 3 I know so far and they are all from Barca, Cruff, Pep and Tito who is continuing the project + may be Bielsa. BR still needs to prove himself, coming 11 in EPL (even with Swansea) is no proof yet, I am entitled to have my doubts. The good news is I will know very soon, you seem convinced.
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Cool, so you understand that English player's are not at all in the same techincal league as the rest of europe, never mind Spain.
But here is the good new's...liverpool are starting from scratch...No it's good. finally a football system is to be applied right across LFC. About time too. If you think we need to buy player's think again. Swansea has players that have travelled with the club from it's humble beginings to the Premiership. And where were Swansea 5 season's ago? And with what money did they do this with?
So FSG, dont know much about football as is pointed out with thier blind faith of appointing Dalglish and giving him cash to splash...now we are broke. Tottaly over paying for very average player's. But that is now gone and no player now in the world will get a free-lunch at Liverpool.
If any LFC supporter would like a "quick-fix", I am afraid you need to go support another club.
BR said it himself that he will need to adapt this football style to the English game, to get short -term results. Ie: to win games ugly, but to win. Slowly he will become more strict with the player"s over time.
Another point I would like to make about tika-taka is that when we get back to Champions Leauge our game will be adapte right to the top of Europe. There should not be a huge learning step or having to change our style...teams will be ball chasing, forcing them to change thier style rather.
One of the best posts I have read in a long time :-) The Bigger picture is what it's all about and you have summed it brilliantly.
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So how long you say we need to wait for this to work, 5 years? And who tells you that as soon as we form a good Tiki Taka player, we won't get Barca (and other richer teams) bidding for him and he's gone, like what we've been seeing at Arsenal? All this if I assume that BR is a master of Tiki Taka, there is only 3 I know so far and they are all from Barca, Cruff, Pep and Tito who is continuing the project + may be Bielsa. BR still needs to prove himself, coming 11 in EPL (even with Swansea) is no proof yet, I am entitled to have my doubts. The good news is I will know very soon, you seem convinced. He seemed patient, which is nice to see.
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Patience is good when you have the objective in mind else it's just being hopeful and living in a dream.
Like any project you need to have the completion date and to make sure that you are on the right track you need milestones. As clients (fans) we haven't been presented any neither by the manager nor the owner. Are we supposed to just believe that things will be better sometime in the future? Not for me sorry, I think LFC owes us a project plan at least including the stadium.
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I think you just disagree with the goals set out by the owners of Liverpool.
They were vocal about reaching CL qual with Kenny and when he failed to achieve that he was fired.
Under Rodgers, they have put in place different goals. Rebuilding of squad and system and no pressure of having to secure a CL spot.
If that doesn't resonate with you and you feel wronged for not having your demands met, you'll be sorely missed.
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