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Originally Posted By: anderson
It's hard to know if Andy Carroll would have made a difference. His goal scoring record for us suggests that this is not the case.

Our main problem yesterday is conceding a goal far too easily because of individual mistakes (again) and not getting at least one out of Borini's, Gerrard's and Johnson's chances. That's really the only thing we needed to change in yesterday's game.


The only 2 things I suppose you meant, instead of the only thing as you wrote. So you want us not to concede and to score. Is this not the objectives of any football match if you want to win? So we failed the 2 objectives, but of course the rest was fine.

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It's hard to know if Andy Carroll would have made a difference. His goal scoring record for us suggests that this is not the case.

Our main problem yesterday is conceding a goal far too easily because of individual mistakes (again) and not getting at least one out of Borini's, Gerrard's and Johnson's chances. That's really the only thing we needed to change in yesterday's game.


The only 2 things I suppose you meant, instead of the only thing as you wrote. So you want us not to concede and to score. Is this not the objectives of any football match if you want to win? So we failed the 2 objectives, but of course the rest was fine.


I'm starting to think you're just a troll.


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Originally Posted By: vish mauritius
Originally Posted By: anderson
It's hard to know if Andy Carroll would have made a difference. His goal scoring record for us suggests that this is not the case.

Our main problem yesterday is conceding a goal far too easily because of individual mistakes (again) and not getting at least one out of Borini's, Gerrard's and Johnson's chances. That's really the only thing we needed to change in yesterday's game.




The only 2 things I suppose you meant, instead of the only thing as you wrote. So you want us not to concede and to score. Is this not the objectives of any football match if you want to win? So we failed the 2 objectives, but of course the rest was fine.


I'm starting to think you're just a troll.


Your arguments getting cleverer I notice, keep it on

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Sorry, we can't all go around making claims like "all the other team has to do is catch us on the break" when there's absolutely zero truth to it and then call for the manager's head after four games.


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I can't believe some people on this forum....seriously, it's actually hard to believe we didn't win the game! We had most of the possession and at least 4 decent chances but once again our finishing let us down and hit the woodwork twice!! Our style of play is great and nice to watch but it's such a shame it wasn't recognized early on that we desperately needed a clinical finisher.
Whilst yes this is important and scoring goals wins you games, the people at the top of the club have admitted their errors and I'm sure they will make it up in January.
Brian Rodgers is doing a wonderful job in getting us to play a decent style of football and with one or two decent additions, primarily a striker, we will challenge strongly for top four. Obviously not this season but anything is possible but we have had a difficult fixture to start the season.
3 points against United at home would at least give us a starting point.

Time and patience is required.

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Give it time please.


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Originally Posted By: AussieRed
I can't believe some people on this forum....seriously, it's actually hard to believe we didn't win the game! We had most of the possession and at least 4 decent chances but once again our finishing let us down and hit the woodwork twice!! Our style of play is great and nice to watch but it's such a shame it wasn't recognized early on that we desperately needed a clinical finisher.
Whilst yes this is important and scoring goals wins you games, the people at the top of the club have admitted their errors and I'm sure they will make it up in January.
Brian Rodgers is doing a wonderful job in getting us to play a decent style of football and with one or two decent additions, primarily a striker, we will challenge strongly for top four. Obviously not this season but anything is possible but we have had a difficult fixture to start the season.
3 points against United at home would at least give us a starting point.

Time and patience is required.

YNWA


We have had the clinical finisher problem for quite some time now and this should have been THE PRIORITY in the last transfer window, not something to be solved at 5 mins to midnight on transfer deadline day. For some reasons the manager left it late unless he thought Borini was the answer or as he said he doesn't believe in teams depending on centre forwards to score, he rather wants scoring attacking players.

According to me this is not the only problem now, we have an as big a problem with our defence. Yes our game against Sunderland and may be City was more attractive compared to last year (unlike the Arsenal game for sure) but is the "decent style" as you say not at the expense of a solid defence? We have conceded 8 goals in 4 games. Even if some will say it was due to personal mistakes, a relatively good defence cannot become bad overnight, when you play more attacking football, you are more vulnerable at the back.

Time and patience is required for sure, for how long is my question. Anyway, can't see us finishing in the top half this year, should we be happy with that? I am not asking for top 4, just wanted an improvement over last year, do you think that this is possible?

Definitely 3 points against Manure will be a starting point, if it happens. We'll talk next Sunday.

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How many times this season have we been able to field our starting four players?

We've been shuffling around a lot at left/right back as well as Danny being sent off and getting a game suspension.

In my opinion that's more likely to cause the personal mistakes than any change in system. As always, feel free to form your own opinion, though.


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[/quote] We have had the clinical finisher problem for quite some time now and this should have been THE PRIORITY in the last transfer window, not something to be solved at 5 mins to midnight on transfer deadline day. For some reasons the manager left it late unless he thought Borini was the answer or as he said he doesn't believe in teams depending on centre forwards to score, he rather wants scoring attacking players. [/quote]

Not sure whether it was totally left to the last minute. I personally think Rodgers had a replacement for Carroll lined up but was left high and dry by the owners. Whilst I totally agree that it should have been THE PRIORITY, to solely blame the manager is a bit harsh!

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Do you feel that Clint Dempsey was the clinical finisher to solve our problems? The only other player we were linked to was Sturridge and I understood that BR wanted to have him only on loan as he was not sure of the player's abilities. Doesn't feel like a huge priority to BR, does it? Borini was though as he was his first signing.

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