KopTalk.com Forums Football Liverpool FC Forum Great job to all those who said tiki-taka was the way to go.

It's hard to know if Andy Carroll would have made a difference. His goal scoring record for us suggests that this is not the case.

Our main problem yesterday is conceding a goal far too easily because of individual mistakes (again) and not getting at least one out of Borini's, Gerrard's and Johnson's chances. That's really the only thing we needed to change in yesterday's game.

Give it time and you'll come to love it and you'll be eating out of Brendan Rodger's hand.

To which I read we are not Barca after three weeks = Sack Brendan - Hillarious !!!

Is this what you read, we are not Barca after 3 weeks? This is nor fair. I read we are just above the relegation zone with our worst start of the season for over 50 years. Also, having to play against WBA and Sunderland is not the worst fixtures we could have got. Agree that it's too early to sack BR but we'll know better in the next few weeks. I am not convinced yet.

Guys,
We are Liverpool...
We are supposed to fight for glory...
But now blinded by this stupid Tiki Taka thing.
I said when i am driving, i changed gear whenever i am on the highway, slope and also when parking. Do i continue with the same gear?
If we are sticking to this all tiki taka thing by the time we master it we might even be in 2nd division not forgetting teams will park a bus or train in front of us.
I don t care what system we are playing but most importantly is to win. Assuming if every team goes for tiki taka then all will fight will qualify for Champions League?
And why are we following Barcelona? Does it really suits us all the time?
So what is Man U playing?
Taka Tiki?

What happens if you drive an automatic?

maybe you need to undertsand the system bfirst before you criticise. The system is based on Barca as we see them now but actually harks back to Paisleys Liverpool. Graham Hunter the spanish correspondant has mentioned this many times. PAass/Move suffocate, rather than rely on individual brilliance the team is the strength, the machine is better than the sum of it's parts.

Swansea were a great example, not full of brilliant players but good players who undertsood how to play together. For far too long we have been too reliant on a brilliant player to do things -Gerrard, Torres, Owen, Fowler, Macca. Each time this player did not play the team suffered immensely. This is now changing, other players are able to drop in and pick up the mantle far easier. The transistion though will take time.
Its no coincidence that certain ball players have adapted quickly, Allen, Agger, Johnson, Lucas - Gerrard is adapting slower as he cuts out the need to force the play. Skrtel has made errors as he is in positions he is not used too, he is improving on the ball though.

Suarez also is gulity of trying to force his way through where more sensible passing would be better., he will learn.

I have total faith in BR as it is the football I grew up with this type of football - educate yourselves and go and watch Liverpool under Paisley. This team is very young. Later in the season as players tire Liverpool will dominate more and more games.

Excatly people talk about tika taka as if its new pass and move is what liverpool were built on and before that the hungarians and real madrid teams of 60 years ago.

People don't half talk daft.

However Chicken Tika now thats new.

Pass and move is what the club was built upon.

Nothing is new in football.

Hungary destroyed teams in the 50's, Real Madrid did likewise in the 60's.

We did it in the 70's and 80's and Barcelona have been doing it recently.

All those teams made the game look simple because the man in possession always has options.

BR is trying to take us back to that and I just hope he is given a chance because it is what made us great in the first place.