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There have also been massive changes in performances during seasons. Enrique for exaample was awesome for periods now looks a bit better than konchesky. Having said that the back 4 is pretty solid, but like reina have to get used to tinka tonka, its them that get the blamewhen they are robbed and someone scores. If gerrard loses it up the field at the moment we don't have tacklers in the team to win it back. Allen and sterling are the only plus points.

The rest are not up to it I agree and wouldnt get in a 'top four team'

Borini is a stop gap measure, like ngog was. Gutted that sturridge didnt join as he has star potential

Think it has to be said though the financial state of the club from 2009 and the older posters will say from before 2009 maybe, with bad management choices, hodgson Kenny(contract extension)and commoli has shafted liverpool for the last 2 years.

Brendan rogers has come in at a bad time would have been better if he came in after kenny had stabalised the team, but before he bought all tha rubbish in

I agree Carhee and starting to see that there are a number there with high reputations and little else.

However, individual errors and the consequences of play breaking down because of them are what leads me to feel uneasy with this. You have the likes of Johnson just outside their area and gaping holes where a Raffa back line would have been just that a solid line.

The conclusion I take from it is that you either score, the ball goes out, or it breaks down because you give the ball away and most sides now in the Premier League will counter and punish you with pace. There is virtually no protection down field and only a miracle will see a defender back in time.

If I've got this analysis wrong I'll gladly hold my hands up.

+1. Reina had a shocker. Maybe he gets a pass for the first goal, but the second one was totally his fault. SG has the class for this system, but he's being careless, and that pass he gave away cost us dearly. He didn't have a bad game really, but he keeps having these bizarre lapses lately. I really think he heeds to be played as a striker simply because we don't have other options and because up top a passing error like that won't cost us like these do.

Tika Taka is ok I always prefered Total Football. Which does allow the defenders to hoof it up in times of trouble.

Tika Tika will take years to embed into the cluub ethos. Time we do not have.

Total football would have been the more logical step in the right direction.

Not allowing defenders to do long balls is ridiculous.

No matter what anyone thinks. Having crosses into the box requires someone to get on the end of it...

Suarez is out tallest striker.. Whats his ratio for heading?

Carroll had the best in the league last year at 65%... Why he didnt get 10 games or so in a row to prove himself I'll never know.

When He, Suarez and Gerrard played we looked good...

but still finished 8th

interestingly enough it's the senior players who are making all the mistakes so far this season and not the young recruits. Sterling and Allen have been exciting additions whilst Shelvey did more in 15mins than Gerrard all season. BR's pressing system and control is a young mans game and it has become evident already that certain players don't have that level of fitness for it.


basically Gerrard should play once a week and in a position where he can do good - further up the pitch, 3 passes this season have lead to opposition goals and 2 others to good chances. Looks a liability at the moment

you could argue that thats because they didn't play together enough

or you could argue that brendan rodgers knows a little bit more than the average fan as he has worked with all three players.

Sterling's defensive naivety has cost us goals, but he will learn. Had we had other options I would have sent him on loan

dont know which way you're arguing to be honest so I'll leave it at that